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Peter Warren
Live E Drummer
Last Activity: Today, 01:44 AM
Joined: 07-26-12
Location: San Anselmo
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  • I am strictly taking about recording. There has never been a module that was worth recording before the Mimic. It makes sense to me to optimize it and use the direct outs. You can always record midi as backup....
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  • I was under the impression that Roland did use midi inside their modules but I guess that is wrong. It was more during a debate about using SSD5 and another kit vs the Mimic. I thought there may be an advantage to the triggering from the Mimic itself to internal sounds since it is not using MIDI. This...
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  • Drum Tec sells 14 inch pads. I built one with a triple mesh head that works great. You won't have the auto cross stick feature although the Mimic can work in a similar way. Hitting rim only gives you cross stick. Rim and head are rim shot. Hopefully resting your hand on the head and hitting rim will...
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  • I have a metal Roland bracket around ready for the Mimic! That is really interesting that they are working on more ideas for the Hi hat. It already was better than everything else in January. No module has ever had enough samples to reproduce a hi hat like this until the Mimic.

    It looks...
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  • Just heard from ATV that the hi hat is 2 piece,14 inch,and compatible with other modules. The AD5 is nice and the Mimic is amazing if you want to spend more money. I would have liked a 14" snare on the Adrum since the hat is 14. I see ATV taking over the pad market and mid range module,and Pearl...
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  • Peter Warren
    replied to SSD5???
    They still said it is on the way but SSD4 is pretty amazing too: ...
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  • SSD4 was no slouch either! These Drum Tec people make the best demo videos:...
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  • The hi hat settings are amazing! It is very nice to be able to manually set 3 positions....
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  • I heard it at NAMM with headphones and it is that good. In fact,it will be technically better than the videos since they have youtube compression. I asked the programmer there and he said the samples are almost flat and the room just sounded that good. I think they did a phenomenal job of tuning,drum...
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  • I have had both. I don't care for the sound of the TD50 but the editing is nice. The AD5 plays just as well and the toms actually machine gun less. The digital pads on the TD50 are very nice and the TD50 has more inputs.
    I will be selling my AD5 in a week or so to buy the Pearl Mimic pro. The...
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  • Peter Warren
    replied to Official Users Topic: Roland TD-50
    I sent that statement to a developer because I don't see how it could be correct. The TD50 has a maximum of 2 samples per zone and I was able to get almost usable results with some percussion. 10 to 20 samples would have been fairly good. A sample based device with 120 samples per zone would have a...
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  • Peter Warren
    replied to Official Users Topic: Roland TD-50
    It does not use 4 to 9 samples. It uses 4 to 9 volume levels. Each volume level has A NUMBER OF ACTUAL RECORDED WAV FILES OF HITS ON A DRUM. The drummer goes in the studio and does his best to hit the drum multiple times at each volume level. These are then assigned to ranges of 127.
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  • Peter Warren
    replied to Official Users Topic: Roland TD-50
    This is incorrect. I don't know why this is being repeated. Vst's only do head,edge,rim and cross stick at the most. They choose ranges to place the samples in. There are no fake samples. I asked a developer. I have seen folders before they are copy protected from Fxpansion as well.
    Out of 127,it...
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  • If you are referring to the video,that is direct sound from the module. Those monitors do sound amazing!...
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  • Peter Warren
    replied to Official Users Topic: Roland TD-50
    Where are you coming up with those numbers?
    Snare:
    Head 120 samples[6 velocity level 20 hits per level]
    Rim 60 samples
    rim click/cross stick 40 samples
    x 6 mics =1320 wav files

    On average,I have seen 100 samples for snare head and 50 for toms....
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  • Peter Warren
    replied to Official Users Topic: Roland TD-50
    The developer varified that they record every hit. Every drum is different,but they could have 6 volume levels with 20 hits at each level on a snare. They may have less on the rimshot. Then there are 6 mic channels so it is a lot of files.

    The Jarrah 16 tom in the TD50 machine guns in...
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  • Peter Warren
    replied to Official Users Topic: Roland TD-50
    For example,120 to 127 may be very loud hit,110 to 119 the next level down,etc. I am not a programmer but my understanding is that certain number ranges use the same volume samples. I have found looking at midi data that the first 50% of volume range does not get used as much as the 2nd.
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  • [QUOTE=KTOleary;n1159940]OK, so I was able to get everything installed and functioning........and I have to say I am not all that impressed. I think that somebody running stock sounds from a TD30 might experience the WOW factor, but I have the great Vex packs with a little tweaking on top (to my liking)...
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  • Peter Warren
    replied to Official Users Topic: Roland TD-50
    I did hear back from a developer and he said volume changes and envelopes only. He was not aware of any other company doing anything other than using a variety of samples. He pointed out that any changes including pitch degrade the sound of the sample. I know that many companies use lossless data compression...
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  • I think it was a good move to demonstrate the fidelity of the module,which is pretty incredible. NAMM also has strict volume rules and that room was pretty small to have a loud PA running . I am certain it will sound spectacular through a PA. It would be easy enough to run some of the demo videos through...
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