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  • G'day from Synney, Land of Oz

    Hi from Sydney, Australia.

    I'm actually an attempted bassplayer (don't throw your stool at me) who is old and fat, and needs to get an exercise regime going, so I bought myself a HD-1, and I'm looking for help in ... all manner of things. It's been a really long time - maybe 40 years - since I have sat behind a kit, and there's a lot that I have to learn and practice.

    My preferred styles of music tend towards blues and jazz, and so that's what I'm thinking I'd like to be playing.

    But I'm a little disappointed in the default sounds that are provided on the HD-1. I find them to be muddy and booming, and that is making it difficult for me to play along with tracks that I'm finding I want to play with.

    So ...

    I am open to suggestions as to how to try to improve the sounds from the unit, and I'm especially open to suggestions as to what music to play (song names, artists, etc) in order to start to get some chops going.

    I've seen some mention on the forums here of EZDrummer; is that where I should be looking to get some better sounds? Computer wise, I have access to a Macbook, and it has an XP/Bootcamp setup installed, so I can run in either Windoze or OS X workplaces. I have a Presonus Firebox that I can add to the mix as well.

    So, any and all suggestions will be gratefully received.

    Cheerz.

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    Not sure why the usual group of greeters (slackers?) hasn't chimed in, but welcome aboard. I'm something of a multi-instrumentalist and belong to a number of forums, and I have to say that you won't find a better group of informed and polite members. No worries that some things will be new to you - we all started somewhere. There's a wealth of information here - sometimes the search engine is helpful, other times not so much. Best thing to do is read through the boards that interest you and see if a similar question has come-up before. Wiki is a good place to learn some of the basic terminology. Check the VST board - lots of info on getting started with EZDrummer. Good luck.

    Cheers.

    Steve
    No more V-drums; all acoustics now.

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    • #3
      Hi Gstark,

      I'm just getting my teeth into this forum and Relayer is right - very helpful lot of people on this site.

      The HD1 has cropped up a little bit here and there, try searching for it. But I think you will have to wait for one of the big players to chime in with their comments as it's not the most common kit and still relatively new I think.

      My immediate question is to ask what sound system you are playing the HD1 over? Does it come with inbuilt speakers? I forget now. Is there a method to turn down the bass frequencies? That should cut out some of the boominess?



      http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41835

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      • #4
        Howdy, I am old and fat also!

        Charly has hit on an important point, how are you listening to your HD1?

        There are a lot of VST drum programs like EZDrummer, BFD, etc. It is a steep learning curve to get them up and running properly. You have to understand MIDI and latency, etc. If you are already familiar, dive in.

        If you are just looking to jam with tracks, it is probably better to get a decent set up headphones and if it still sounds crappy, consider another module. The HD1 is the bottom of the ladder and there is much room to climb.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Relayer View Post
          Not sure why the usual group of greeters (slackers?) hasn't chimed in, but welcome aboard.

          We were temporarily out of meat pie floaters to offer our Ozzie cousins....

          but welcome and keep us posted on your drumming!
          TD9+6v with Diamond Electronic pads, and cowbell.
          ATH-50m headphones, VEX packs
          not to mention keyboards, guitars, basses, and cats

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          • #6
            Hi Gstark,

            Welcome - always good to see another Aussie on board - I live about 3 hrs south of Sinney so I should be able to see you if you stand on the stool and wave :-)

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            • #7
              Hello to you down there in the bush, here's a long boring answer ...

              That user name is a bit erm ... you could be "The Wizard of Oz"

              I've never met an Australian in the flesh (seen em on Neighbours when i used to watch the TV a few years back) you are always welcome to come over for a coffee, anyway down to business.

              The HD-1 doesn't have a mixer built in but there's nothing to stop you from running the master out cables to a small cheapy mixer and then you can maybe dial out some of those lower booming frequencies and add some high end sparkle and a little mid. My mixer is a small Behringer UB802 and cost me £39. (you can google it) If you just have one small output jack you can buy a "y" cable and the appropriate plug in connectors for all the ends from any electronic or hi-fi store.

              Also you do have sensitivity control that is global (it effects the whole kit) if you lower that a little it means that you get a softer hit when you strike a pad so it's worth having a dabble there too just V slightly.

              Good cans are a must, those Princess Leah cans that were used to listen to Abba's greatest hits in the 70's just won't cut the mustard young man I have basic entry studio cans called Fostex T5's and they are very good. They cost £25. People remark how fantastic they sound.

              You can get a PM-01 matching monitor for your HD-1 but it's only 15 watts with a 4" speaker so it may be a bit crappy. I would go for something bigger if you intend to amp up.

              Ezdrummer
              Your Presonus midi interface is perfect for Ezdrummer, you go midi out from your HD-1 module to your interface enabling you to trigger sounds via midi in Ezdrummer. As your PC is fairly up to speed you will have no probs, Ezdrummer will run on it's own with something called Toontrack Solo that acts as a host and manager for it, it's free with the program. The only problem is that you have to map the midi message notes to the Ezdrummer kit from yours (i think?) and i see many people here have probs getting a fully open or closed hi hat sound. I have no personal experience but intend to buy Ezdrummer shortly when i've finished my current GAS trip. Please avoid GAS if you can.

              Overall i reckon once you have visited this site a few times you will begin to outgrow that kit and want a TD-3 with bigger everything and better sounds. The price difference is not that great.

              (if u want a mega cool song to play funky drums too check out the 70's song by Stretch called "why did you do it" it will blow ya mind) (also Stevie Ray - Cold Shot) (Nickelback - Rockstar) (Nirvana - Smells like teen spirit) (Genesis - Turn it on again) (Rainbow - Since you've been gone) wow! there's lots.

              ps - i was a bass player and we are the backbone of a band, bass is a sexy instrument, i use to play a 70's Precision Bass with mirror scratch plate (wow what a sound) and we are very important dudes, just think of all the great bass riffs, Fleetwood Mac - The Chain, Queen - Another one bites the dust, Van Morrison - Moondance, Thin Lizzy - Dancing in the moonlight, Steppenwolf - Born to be wild, Free - Wishing well ... some of these 5 and 6 string bass players can now blow a lead guitarist off stage, be proud my man!

              Dave ...
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              • #8
                Originally posted by daveybabes View Post
                That user name is a bit erm ... you could be "The Wizard of Oz"

                I've never met an Australian in the flesh (seen em on Neighbours when i used to watch the TV a few years back) you are always welcome to come over for a coffee, anyway down to business.

                Dave ...
                You havent been to many pubs in central london then! they are aovva the place! and while looking for a room to let in london, there were hundreds of 'aussie houses' offering space....
                TD9+6v with Diamond Electronic pads, and cowbell.
                ATH-50m headphones, VEX packs
                not to mention keyboards, guitars, basses, and cats

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                • #9
                  No, i'm about 200 and something miles north mate, not an aussie anywhere to be seen here ... i'm in the Moorlands, u can see the pic? it's me 2 trees and a cow ... she took the pic ha ha (nice tattoo)

                  I wouldn't dare go to London, they give u a choice these days, Stabbed - Shot - or just a basic mugging ...
                  Last edited by daveybabes; 07-22-08, 06:07 AM.
                  WEBSITE - http://www.diamondelectronicdrums.com/
                  YOUTUBE CHANNEL - http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbVB...?feature=guide
                  FACEBOOK me at ... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...83235555050736
                  :eek: ...
                  Showcase 1 - http://vdrums.com/forum/album.php?albumid=253
                  Showcase 2 - http://vdrums.com/forum/album.php?albumid=354

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                  • #10
                    Hey Dave,

                    You're welcome to some of ours - http://www.australianswithinatlanta.com/ We're overrun with 'em. We've even got our own footie team "The Kookaburras".

                    Cheers.

                    Steve
                    No more V-drums; all acoustics now.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Relayer View Post
                      Hey Dave,

                      You're welcome to some of ours - http://www.australianswithinatlanta.com/ We're overrun with 'em. We've even got our own footie team "The Kookaburras".

                      Cheers.

                      Steve
                      They just startes an Aussie rules league here too, but I think I'm a mite old to start that....
                      TD9+6v with Diamond Electronic pads, and cowbell.
                      ATH-50m headphones, VEX packs
                      not to mention keyboards, guitars, basses, and cats

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                      • #12
                        Ah well, I'm too old and enjoy having teeth. But it's very entertaining to watch - like Rugby on Acid.

                        Cheers.

                        Steve
                        No more V-drums; all acoustics now.

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                        • #13
                          Gday gstark
                          Looks like there's plenty of great info already been handed your way so I just wanted to drop in and offer another hearty Aussie welcome. Geelong girl here but I have played on the main stage at the Sydney Opera House a few times

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