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  • First Gig With an E-Kit ....

    Did my first gig with the E-Kit.... not bad sound but a whole different experience than doing a show with an a-kit. Way louder on stage because they kept bumping it up in the monitors because the guys couldn't hear it.... but it was just right in the mains. I have a td-6 that has been vex-ed... but using mostly mix and matched kit pieces for snare, toms etc . ..... one thing that did pop up was that sometime in the second of 3 sets the kick (it's a KD-&7) started only triggering every other strike or so .... checked the connections, not much help and seemed to be getting worse as it went. Got done with the set and had a plan..... long story short i had a piezo that i had gotten the day before at radio shack still in the car. I stripped about 3/4 of an inch of insulation off the wires and taped the piezo to the side of the pad and then taped the wires to the plug. It worked and finished the night fine. But of course when i i got the KD-7 home and checked it the next day it worked just fine. I'm noticing that sometimes what you set the drums up on seems to affect how it triggers, like a riser or solid floor and so forth.... am I crazy or does that happen. Thanks to listening to my ramblings...
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    TD-6 Vexed... TD-12 vexed .... hard at work on an A to E conversion and pretty sure that will never end till i do.....lol

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    Glad everything worked out fine for you! - A little improvisation goes a long way...

    Cool idea with the lighting, too!

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    - Dänoh



    "My best friends' name is J-SON. They used to call him 'Mr. Parse.' He has an 'Error'..!"

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    • #3
      Yes I've noticed the surface can change things. I've also noticed sometimes the more people watching, the more things start to fail, lol.
      TD50 Digital Pack, TD30 and TD9 Modules, custom made pads, Gen16 crashes, and hats plus a few other things that I'm not sure what to do with or why they're still in my kit. Bands: Espada http://www.musicaespada.com/ and JamCo https://www.facebook.com/JamcoEntertainment, https://www.jamcoband.com/

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      • #4
        Definitely something i learned when playing on stage was that the other musos are often very used to hearing the acoustic drums and feeling their presence so a lot more drums need to come through monitors for their benefit.


        Roland TD-30KV, Pearl Demon Drive Double Pedal, Pearl H1000 hit hat stand, Shure SE530 IEMs, AKG K171 MKII Headphones, Mackie DLM PA, Yamaha MG102C mixer, Roland Studio Capture

        Natal Walnut kit (US Fusion X), Bosphorus Antique 16" Crash & 22" Ride, Bosphorus Gold Series 14" hats.

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        • #5
          I doesn't sound like this is the case in your situation, but it could be this: I used to use a keyboard amplifier on stage, and it had a "cut-out" to protect the speaker from spikes. It used to drive me crazy, until I figured this out. Everything was was fine until I turned up the amp when the band was begging for more kick. Then the amp would cut in/out (I thought it was cables, the module, everything but the amp.) Maybe what happened is your Radio Shack trigger was just a bit less sensitive and didn't trigger the module to send enough volume to your amp? To diagnose this, if you can recreate the situation in your studio, then simply turn down the sensitivity for the KD-7 module. If the problem goes away, it's on the audio/amplifer end, not the trigger or the module.

          As and alternative explanation, I had a KD-7 and the trigger started to go bad. It was an intermittent thing. I found a replacement part on eBay and it works perfectly. To trouble shoot this, try to recreate the situation in your home studio an then swap out the kick trigger.

          ​Hope this helps.
          ATV aDrums & aD5, Pearl Mimic Pro & DIY, eDRUMin 10, Agean R-series Silent Cymbals, Roland Handsonic HPD-20.

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          • #6
            Great job with a live gig and an e kit. One of the most important things when using ekits live is MONITORING. If you use and underpowered monitor system for your ekit, you will underwhelm your audience (and other musos). I agree with jpsquared in that you prolly were cutting in some sort of limiter, it is notorious with amps and e kick drums. What kind of monitor system were you using? In anything other than small venues, you will most likely need a more robust system, or your own monitor system separate from the rest of the band. Lots of threads and posts on that topic.

            K ;-)
            My bands: Alter Ego, Arcanum
            E Kit = Roland TDW-20s kit // Roland SPD-S// Pearl Demon Drives//
            A Kit = Tama Swingstar 5 pc (1981) w/roto toms (orig owner!) //Zildjians
            A Kit = Natal 6 pc with Paiste 2000 & Zildjian/MidiKNights/DrumSplitters

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            • #7
              Seriously thinking about biting the bullet today on the TD 30 kv kit. I had my first gig with a Alesis DM 10x kit last night. What a JOKE! I have spent so much time tweaking adjusting and modifying around 30 kits, all were sounding great with the in ear monitors. Had a couple of issues with sounds prematurely choking. I called Alesis, made the adjustments, what a horror story. I managed to keep it together at the gig. The band could not believe I was able to keep a smile on my face, THE WORST EXPERIENCE I HAVE EVER HAD PLAYING OUT. I have 26 years behind me, bought my first set of electronics in the 80's, they are called the DDRUM 2 set, which I still own. Even with that old technology, I never experience the crap I had to deal with last night.
              Okay, I am all done venting on the wasted money I spent on the ALESIS S… that I bought.
              I am nervous about laying down the money, and having any issues at all that can't be overcome. Can anyone reassure me that The Roland TD 30 Kv will meet those expectations

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