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    My edrum setup is smaller than the full kits here. I can carry it (and all the cables, boxes etc) in a full size suitcase. Usually I travel very portable and sometimes need to take the train to a gig. I've been plugging straight into the PA but recently have been having problems with my edrums, the guitar and vocals cancelling each other out. I generally can hear myself well enough through the monitors but find out from videos that the audience didn't hear enough drums. If I'm to bring the smallest possible strong amp should I send a signal from it to the PA? Or mic it like guitar players do or send a separate signals from the edrums to both the pa and my amp? I know it's been discussed in the sticky above but I'd appreciate some current recommendations from gigging edrummers on that small amp too. Because I use a not so touch sensitive setup I use my volume control quite a bit to make sure I'm balanced with the guitar etc. If I had a strong amp on stage I'm concerned about not hearing the real balance when there's no or an inexperienced sound man. Thanks!
    Last edited by tttom; 05-28-18, 05:58 AM.

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    Your PA is powered correct? If so, it's simply a matter of turning up the drums in the main PA. I have a small mixer and direct boxes to split my signal. So you would come out of your module into the direct boxes. It splits the signal so you send directly to the PA and to your small mixer. This way you can adjust your stage volume with your mixer and not impact the PA. You set the volume on the module and leave it alone. Use your mixer to adjust your volume. Let me know if you'd like me to walk you through the set up.

    You can't send a separate amp to the PA. It's already has the amps. You don't want the audience hearing your stage sound over the PA. So I think your best bet is splitting the signal so the PA and your monitor are controlled separately. Here's a link to a stereo direct box. Input the 1/4" cable from your module. Send the 1/4 inch thru to your personal mixer. Send the XLR output to the main PA mixer.
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    TD50 Digital Pack, TD30 and TD9 Modules, custom made pads, Gen16 crashes, and hats plus a few other things that I'm not sure what to do with or why they're still in my kit. Bands: Espada http://www.musicaespada.com/ and JamCo https://www.facebook.com/JamcoEntertainment, https://www.jamcoband.com/

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    • #3
      Oh, if you have a powered monitor, you can also do away with the mixer. Just use the volume on the monitor to adjust stage level. The disadvantage with this is it's a pain to get up and adjust the monitor compared to having a little mixer in reach. I adjust levels during songs some times. But it only impacts my personal mix, nothing else.
      TD50 Digital Pack, TD30 and TD9 Modules, custom made pads, Gen16 crashes, and hats plus a few other things that I'm not sure what to do with or why they're still in my kit. Bands: Espada http://www.musicaespada.com/ and JamCo https://www.facebook.com/JamcoEntertainment, https://www.jamcoband.com/

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      • #4
        Although we sometimes use our own pa I'm speaking of when I go on a stage where they already either have a mixer on stage or a house pa and soundman. I am trying to avoid what happened last 2 gigs. Last gig guitar player mic'd his little amp. I went straight in to pa via direct boxes on edrums and mics. Got a muddy sound with guitar (mic'd amp) vocals and my edrums seeming to fight over PA real estate.

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        • #5
          Outside of bringing your own system or having a stage monitor loud enough to avoid the PA, not sure what you can do. If you can't control the house sound, you're at their mercy.
          TD50 Digital Pack, TD30 and TD9 Modules, custom made pads, Gen16 crashes, and hats plus a few other things that I'm not sure what to do with or why they're still in my kit. Bands: Espada http://www.musicaespada.com/ and JamCo https://www.facebook.com/JamcoEntertainment, https://www.jamcoband.com/

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