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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kenster View Post

    Easy, put him in charge of the PA. Tell him if he wants to sing and sound good then he's in charge of that. PLUS, since he has NO GEAR to haul, that's HIS contribution to the BAND. Frickin prima donnas!!!!
    I deal with third world singers so they barely know what a PA is. They won't even carry a mic. I gave up a long time ago, although he suddenly helped carry my hardware on our Hawaiian tour last week.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Peter Warren View Post

      I deal with third world singers so they barely know what a PA is. They won't even carry a mic. I gave up a long time ago, although he suddenly helped carry my hardware on our Hawaiian tour last week.
      Third world or not they KNOW what work is and need to deal with it lol! He can be shown how to plug a Neutrik connector into a cabinet or run a cable or two.
      My bands: Alter Ego, Arcanum
      E Kit = Roland TDW-20s kit // Roland SPD-S// Pearl Demon Drives//
      A Kit = Tama Swingstar 5 pc (1981) w/roto toms (orig owner!) //Zildjians
      A Kit = Natal 6 pc with Paiste 2000 & Zildjian/MidiKNights/DrumSplitters

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      • #18
        Nice Ken....


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        • #19
          Originally posted by latzanimal View Post
          Nice Ken....
          I try lol.
          My bands: Alter Ego, Arcanum
          E Kit = Roland TDW-20s kit // Roland SPD-S// Pearl Demon Drives//
          A Kit = Tama Swingstar 5 pc (1981) w/roto toms (orig owner!) //Zildjians
          A Kit = Natal 6 pc with Paiste 2000 & Zildjian/MidiKNights/DrumSplitters

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          • #20
            What a fantastic thread - thanks for all that detailed info on how to do things properly

            We turned up to do a wedding at a very posh hotel recently - band, lights, DJ, all the usual ... and yep, one power outlet to take everything - at the end of a long extension lead - no surprise there was earth hum (50Hz in the UK) present.

            Some years ago I had to get my Fohhn PA amp recalibrated back in Germany - due to our 'noisy British electricity supply' - the protective circuitry was preventing the amp starting at some venues.
            TD-50 upgrade kit, BFD3 on MacBook Pro, Focusrite 2Pre interface, SPD-sx, SPD-30, Roland KD 140, PD-BC 128/108 pads, Paiste signature cymbals, DW Hardware, Allen & Heath mixer, Fohhn Xperience III PA, Fohhn XT-33 active speaker drum monitor, Porter & Davies BC Gigster drum throne monitor

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            • #21
              AH yes the old earth hum culprit! I use a couple of HumX adapters when it gets bad.

              K
              My bands: Alter Ego, Arcanum
              E Kit = Roland TDW-20s kit // Roland SPD-S// Pearl Demon Drives//
              A Kit = Tama Swingstar 5 pc (1981) w/roto toms (orig owner!) //Zildjians
              A Kit = Natal 6 pc with Paiste 2000 & Zildjian/MidiKNights/DrumSplitters

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              • #22
                Pardon my ignorance (I'm only a drummer after all ) but what is a HumX adapter - pretty obvious what it does, but I've not come across these.

                Thanks.
                TD-50 upgrade kit, BFD3 on MacBook Pro, Focusrite 2Pre interface, SPD-sx, SPD-30, Roland KD 140, PD-BC 128/108 pads, Paiste signature cymbals, DW Hardware, Allen & Heath mixer, Fohhn Xperience III PA, Fohhn XT-33 active speaker drum monitor, Porter & Davies BC Gigster drum throne monitor

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by willsud View Post
                  Pardon my ignorance (I'm only a drummer after all ) but what is a HumX adapter - pretty obvious what it does, but I've not come across these.

                  Thanks.
                  Eliminates ground buzz without removing the ground. I use direct boxes that have ground lifts on them, not sure if the HumX is more effective as I've never used one. Ken?
                  TD30 and TD9 Modules, custom made pads - three rack toms, one floor, one kick with dual pedal, snare, three aux pads, three Gen16 crashes, one Gen16 Ride and Gen16 hats plus a few other things that I'm not sure what to do with or why they're still in my kit. Bands Espada http://www.musicaespada.com/ and The JamCo https://www.facebook.com/JamcoEntertainment, http://bwajda12.wix.com/jamco

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                  • #24
                    Many thanks - my drum PA has a ground lift switch on the active sub but I've never used it - I'll mention these gadgets to the rest of my bands as it's a regular problem playing in pubs and clubs.

                    cheers,
                    TD-50 upgrade kit, BFD3 on MacBook Pro, Focusrite 2Pre interface, SPD-sx, SPD-30, Roland KD 140, PD-BC 128/108 pads, Paiste signature cymbals, DW Hardware, Allen & Heath mixer, Fohhn Xperience III PA, Fohhn XT-33 active speaker drum monitor, Porter & Davies BC Gigster drum throne monitor

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by willsud View Post
                      Many thanks - my drum PA has a ground lift switch on the active sub but I've never used it - I'll mention these gadgets to the rest of my bands as it's a regular problem playing in pubs and clubs.

                      cheers,
                      Yeah it usually works much better to ground lift the items individually if needed. I usually have to lift my Gen 16 module and it's much more effective doing that then lifting the power supply that all my stuff plugs into.
                      TD30 and TD9 Modules, custom made pads - three rack toms, one floor, one kick with dual pedal, snare, three aux pads, three Gen16 crashes, one Gen16 Ride and Gen16 hats plus a few other things that I'm not sure what to do with or why they're still in my kit. Bands Espada http://www.musicaespada.com/ and The JamCo https://www.facebook.com/JamcoEntertainment, http://bwajda12.wix.com/jamco

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                      • #26
                        Yep, I agree with others, ground lift individually when you can. Otherwise, for me, even with a powered Behringer DI box for my e kit, I got lots of hum but the HumX seemed to work better. I also used my HumX on my Powered Peavey 8 channel mixer head and still use it at home whenever the band practices there. They are wonderful.

                        The ONLY complaint that seems to be about Hum X devices is guitar players might complain it's killing their tone. For us e kit drummers, not an issue. Not an issue for PA either. I highly recommend them even tho they are pricey, but, they work better than my ground lift switch, ground lift plugs and DI boxes, hands down beats them all in performance. YMMV.

                        Rock on!!

                        K ;-)
                        My bands: Alter Ego, Arcanum
                        E Kit = Roland TDW-20s kit // Roland SPD-S// Pearl Demon Drives//
                        A Kit = Tama Swingstar 5 pc (1981) w/roto toms (orig owner!) //Zildjians
                        A Kit = Natal 6 pc with Paiste 2000 & Zildjian/MidiKNights/DrumSplitters

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                        • #27
                          [QUOTE=Kenster;n1153994]





                          Are those vistalites ?










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                          • #28
                            Good points. As I play in a fanfare, it's all just brass and percussion, but I have experience with the "each his/her own" instrument. If there is help, it's Always from the same ones. Luckely for me there is help anyway, otherwise at concerts there wouldn't be a drumkit, since I still don't have a car . The other day someone told me that it would be easy if I had a car (I'm still a daily motorbiker so I take the bike to go to work), and I replied that if I needed to buy a car just to transport the drumkit, that would be a very expensive car... He agreed.
                            'lectric drumma
                            Roland TD-20, Hart Dynamics 7.6, 2 x PD-7, extra PD-7 and Hart Snare laying around, Vic Firth Dave Weckl signature sticks, Axis A-longboards double pedal, Sony MDR-CD780 headphones and not enough inputs.

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                            • #29
                              [QUOTE=towndog;n1164084]
                              Originally posted by Kenster View Post





                              Are those vistalites ?
                              No but they were made to look like the Bonzo kit as this kit was used for the Bonzo bash at NAMM where 25 drummers played on it. They (Natal) only made 3 of these kits as they are a traditional wood shell kit maker, not acrylics. One of the drums I had custom made as I wanted one more Tom and Natal of course only made the kit as is, but, they hooked me up with all the hardware to make it, I just had the shell made and all the holes pre drilled and the edges pre beveled.

                              K

                              My bands: Alter Ego, Arcanum
                              E Kit = Roland TDW-20s kit // Roland SPD-S// Pearl Demon Drives//
                              A Kit = Tama Swingstar 5 pc (1981) w/roto toms (orig owner!) //Zildjians
                              A Kit = Natal 6 pc with Paiste 2000 & Zildjian/MidiKNights/DrumSplitters

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