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  • TD-11's Line Out Controls

    I found this out the hard way, this weekend. After much deliberation over using VST or live recording, I decided on live recording.
    I did like one guys suggested. I ran a cable from the headphone out to the MacBook's audio in. I started getting some distortion from it.

    After trips to Best Buy, the Apple Store and Guitar Center, I decided to dabble with the TD-11's line outs to the MacBook's audio in.
    Things were still distorting. Then I turned the "volume" knob.

    Evidentially, the volume knob also controls how hot the output is from the line outs, as well as the volume from the headphone outs.
    Just wondered if anyone else had hit on this. Maybe it's old news.
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  • #2
    Yes - this appears to be the norm on modules priced at the lower-end.
    Perhaps, it's a cost-cutting action....

    Probably, you'd have to go up to the ranks of 30/12 (...or 900/700, if you prefer) to get individual knobs for both main-out and phones!


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    • #3

      Mostly I posted this so someone else won't spend two days trying to find this out.


      Originally posted by hairmetal-81 View Post
      Yes - this appears to be the norm on modules priced at the lower-end.
      Perhaps, it's a cost-cutting action....

      Probably, you'd have to go up to the ranks of 30/12 (...or 900/700, if you prefer) to get individual knobs for both main-out and phones!
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      • #4
        I've read a lot about how to get the sound from the Roland modules.

        Here's what I found to be the easiest and cheapest.

        Follow these easy steps.

        1. Go buy one of these or something similar: $6.47 the last time I checked
        Hosa MHE100.5 Right Angle 1/4" to 3.5mm Headphone Adapter/Extension (6 inches) Hosa http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000068O6B/...LJsb003D2JTZZM

        2. Run Hosa Cable STP203 TRS To Dual 1/4 Inch Insert Cable - 9.75 Foot Hosa http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000068O1P/...LJsb0E8J7BB5WC
        from your Roland module (red and white) to the adapter in #1.

        3. Plug the 3.5mm end of #1 into your Macbook.

        Now your headphones output on your Roland module is still available to you so you can hear what you're doing.

        To record into a free program like Audacity:
        -make sure you follow steps 1-3 PLUS have the main USB cable from the back of your Roland connected to your computer.
        -change your INPUT in Audacity to the TD11 or whatever Roland kit you're using. (it should read it because you should already have Roland drivers installed at this point)
        -change your audio in Audacity to 2 Stereo input channels.
        -Make sure your volume is turned up loud
        -Hit Record and enjoy

        I hope that helps. I find it much easier than trying to output from your headphones jack. It's better to hear what you're playing in real time imo.

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        • #5

          After some trial and error, I currently do almost that same setup. Instead of running things into the MacBook's
          audio in, I run them into this.

          https://store.griffintechnology.com/imic

          I also plug my headphones into it, for a monitor.



          Originally posted by gandalf View Post
          I've read a lot about how to get the sound from the Roland modules.

          1. Go buy one of these or something similar: $6.47 the last time I checked
          Hosa MHE100.5 Right Angle 1/4" to 3.5mm Headphone Adapter/Extension (6 inches) Hosa http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000068O6B/...LJsb003D2JTZZM

          2. Run Hosa Cable STP203 TRS To Dual 1/4 Inch Insert Cable - 9.75 Foot Hosa http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000068O1P/...LJsb0E8J7BB5WC
          from your Roland module (red and white) to the adapter in #1.

          3. Plug the 3.5mm end of #1 into your Macbook.

          Now your headphones output on your Roland module is still available to you so you can hear what you're doing.

          To record into a free program like Audacity:
          -make sure you follow steps 1-3 PLUS have the main USB cable from the back of your Roland connected to your computer.
          -change your INPUT in Audacity to the TD11 or whatever Roland kit you're using. (it should read it because you should already have Roland drivers installed at this point)
          -change your audio in Audacity to 2 Stereo input channels.
          -Make sure your volume is turned up loud
          -Hit Record and enjoy

          I hope that helps. I find it much easier than trying to output from your headphones jack. It's better to hear what you're playing in real time imo.
          __________________________________________________
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          https://www.facebook.com/richardsosborn
          Logic Pro X, Roland SPD-30, Roland SPD-SX

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          • #6
            Originally posted by rsosborn View Post
            After some trial and error, I currently do almost that same setup. Instead of running things into the MacBook's
            audio in, I run them into this.

            https://store.griffintechnology.com/imic

            I also plug my headphones into it, for a monitor.
            That's pretty handy to have for sure. For recording purposes, I run everything through the Roland Quad Capture. It won't break your bank account and it's one step up from their newer Duo Capture EX.

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            • #7
              The guy at the Apple Store was pushing this. Looked pretty cool. I like my $40 iMic.
              http://store.apple.com/us/product/HC...d-mac?fnode=57

              Talking my girlfriend into the single input version. She produces short films.
              It and an external mic could turn her iPhone into a portable recording station.


              Originally posted by gandalf View Post

              That's pretty handy to have for sure. For recording purposes, I run everything through the Roland Quad Capture. It won't break your bank account and it's one step up from their newer Duo Capture EX.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by rsosborn View Post
                The guy at the Apple Store was pushing this. Looked pretty cool. I like my $40 iMic.
                http://store.apple.com/us/product/HC...d-mac?fnode=57

                Talking my girlfriend into the single input version. She produces short films.
                It and an external mic could turn her iPhone into a portable recording station.

                The Apogee's design is very pleasant, it looks as if it has a solid aluminum outer case!
                Is it working under Mac only?


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                • #9

                  I'll tell you what. I held that thing at the Apple Store. It is a brick of
                  aluminum. What a nice piece of hardware. Headphone amp.
                  Mini interface. Audio interface. If it wasn't extreme overkill
                  for what I'm doing, you can bet I would have one.

                  Plus it works with iPads and even iPhones. Plugs into the
                  bottom of them. They have software to record straight into
                  them. Nice, nice stuff.


                  Originally posted by hairmetal-81 View Post

                  The Apogee's design is very pleasant, it looks as if it has a solid aluminum outer case!
                  Is it working under Mac only?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by rsosborn View Post
                    I'll tell you what. I held that thing at the Apple Store. It is a brick of
                    aluminum. What a nice piece of hardware. Headphone amp.
                    Mini interface. Audio interface. If it wasn't extreme overkill
                    for what I'm doing, you can bet I would have one

                    That's what I wanted to hear! Does it support PC/windows systems as well?


                    "My best friends' name is J-SON. They used to call him 'Mr. Parse.' He has an 'Error'..!"

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                    • #11

                      I have no idea.

                      Originally posted by hairmetal-81 View Post


                      That's what I wanted to hear! Does it support PC/windows systems as well?
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                      • #12
                        No problem!

                        I guess windows-users will be covered with this one below.
                        It has a form-factor similar to the Apogee!
                        http://www.thomann.de/gb/rme_babyface_silver.htm


                        "My best friends' name is J-SON. They used to call him 'Mr. Parse.' He has an 'Error'..!"

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                        • #13
                          I just wanted to add how I route my V Drums (11KV) when using the Roland Quad Capture. Perhaps this will help someone in the future...

                          1. 1/4"/TRS from drum module headphone jack to L and R 1/4" inputs on the front left of the Quad Capture (needing a single 1/4" to dual 1/4" cable like this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000068O1P/..._DI8Jsb0K5W2DA ). An ALTERNATIVE is to do a DUAL sided 1/4" cable from the main audio outputs on the drum module to the Quad Capture. I would still suggest monitoring through the Quad Capture instead of the module though.
                          2. I leave a midi cable connected from Midi Out on the drum module to Midi In on the Quad Capture just incase I want to use it.
                          3. USB cable running from the Quad Capture to Macbook.
                          4. I plug my headphones into the Quad Capture headphone jack for monitoring. I prefer to listen to the monitor with the "Mono" light ON. For some reason I thought if I was monitoring in Mono, the sound would output mono but that's FALSE. Upon reading the Quad Capture manual, the sound will always output in Stereo to my DAW (computer software).

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                          • #14
                            Hi, please forgive me if I'm totally out to lunch but couldn't you use the USB audio to your computer for recording?
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by mrspiffyca View Post
                              Hi, please forgive me if I'm totally out to lunch but couldn't you use the USB audio to your computer for recording?
                              That's what I do. the only thing I do different is I run my td15 thru a mackie 402 mixer and use the headphone out on that. Works perfect.
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