Record the Vdrum module versus MIDI in Addictive Drums

[rsosborn Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close rsosborn]

I have a TD11, a Macbook Pro, Garage Band and a desire to succeed.

I've connected the TD11 to Garage Band. It misses some of the hi hat stuff, once in a while. But I love all of the MIDI kits.

I've brought loops into the TD11 on a thumbdrive. The TD11 module sounds really smooth with the loops. But has so few sounds.

I'm sure there is a sticky on this. I didn't see it.

I can spend $30 on an iMic to bring in the TD11 module sounds. Record them live in Garage Band. Or I can buy Addictive Drums.
Then try to smooth out the MIDI connection.

I do mostly electronic music, loops and industrial tracks.

Has anyone beat me down this road? I'm thinking of doing the iMic/live recording thing for now. Play with MIDI later.

[sycle1 Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close sycle1]

Just buy Sonar X3 ya get Addictive drums free with it and you will be able to record digital audio Midi edit audio etc

[hairmetal-81 Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close hairmetal-81]

Start off by saving some cash first:
Take a look at DrumMic'a by Sennheiser!
http://de-de.sennheiser.com/service-support/drummica




If you need a DAW other than Garageband, there are a few very economic one's out there that can load vst's:
(Note: I'm on a PC, so they may not available in a Mac-version...)


Presonus Studio One Free:
The succesor of a DAW known as 'Krystal Audio'.
http://www.presonus.com/products/studio-one/download

Macaw v3.01:
It was formerly called Oscillastation, Rocktave and DeltaSP so quite a few people have already come across it I guess.
Has lots of built-in synths, and even a modular architecture.
http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Macaw/

EnergyXT:
This one, at a modest 40$, isn't quite free - but there is definitely a Mac-version of it!
http://www.energy-xt.com/index.php?id=0101

Mackie Tracktion:
Version available for Mac aswell, plugin support, easy GUI.
At one point or another it was free, but check Mackie's website, if this still holds true...
http://www.mackie.com/products/tracktion/tracktion.html

Co-ckos Reaper:
Popular with the 2box-community; SDSE uses it to make 'one-click-samples' from vsti's.
If you are just using Reaper as an individual, for personal use, a licence is 60$. Again a Mac-version.
http://www.****os.com/reaper/resources.php




If you don't need a full-fledged DAW with recording/processing abilities, you can simply use a plugin 'Host' to run your vsti's and trigger them via MIDI:

saviHost by Herman Seib:
The alpha male when it comes to Hosts. Clean looking GUI, pretty much plug-and-play. Unsure of a Mac-version.
http://www.hermannseib.com/savihost.htm

VST Lord:
A plugin-host for OSX.
http://arne.knup.de/?page_id=32

AU Lab:
Apple's own vst-Host. Comes free with OS X Dev Tools.
http://www.apple.com/itunes/mastered-for-itunes/

Audiofile Engineering RAX 3:
A streamlined, intuitive virtual rack for OS X.
http://www.audiofile-engineering.com/rax/

Tobybear MiniHost:
My personal favorite! A powerful ASIO-host with a built-in arpeggiator and phrase-generator. Unregistered, it displays a ten-second 'nag screen', but hey...
http://www.tobybear.de/p_minihost.html




As said, there probably lots of others, certainly for Mac ...I'm just simply coming from the Windows' side of things!



* Sidenote: Sennheiser is still hurting it's own DrumMic'a download-spread by NOT offering a dedicated, ENGLISH webpage, in my opinion!




HTH

[zgeggy2k Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close zgeggy2k]

I can spend $30 on an iMic to bring in the TD11 module sounds. Record them live in Garage Band. Or I can buy Addictive Drums.
Then try to smooth out the MIDI connection.

I don't think you need to buy the iMic: your Mac can most likely use its Jack I/O to record your TD11. Just connect your TD11 audio out (left+right) to the headphone jack of your mac, set it to Recording mode rather than playback, and start recording (in GarageBand).

If you're not happy with that get Addictive Drums (you can use it in Garage Band - no need for another DAW). I would go this route for the flexibility of MIDI and the sounds of the VST world.

-- Greg

[EssKayKay Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close EssKayKay]

May be a bit off topic but if you're looking for a basic software package with great sounds and at a real bargain, try BFD eco. IMO it sounds as good as AD if not better, especially the cymbals (although I guess that can be a bit subjective). It runs standalone or as a plugin under a host. I just picked up a copy from Musicians Friend for $26 w/coupon.

[rsosborn Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close rsosborn]

I agree, but I can't record and monitor my playing via headphones without iMic. The Macbook 1/8" jack only does input or output
one at a time. Not both. If I want input from the TD-11 and headphones hooked up, I need iMic. It comes in next week.

I plan to go your route. I'm going to record the TD-11 live to Garage Band. I can expand the drum sets in the TD-11. I can even
use VEX expressions on it. If I want more sounds, I can try buying Addictive or Ez Drummer and run them in Garage Band.

Thanks for all the suggestions, gents.

I don't think you need to buy the iMic: your Mac can most likely use its Jack I/O to record your TD11. Just connect your TD11 audio out (left+right) to the headphone jack of your mac, set it to Recording mode rather than playback, and start recording (in GarageBand).

If you're not happy with that get Addictive Drums (you can use it in Garage Band - no need for another DAW). I would go this route for the flexibility of MIDI and the sounds of the VST world.

-- Greg

[mrspiffyca Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close mrspiffyca]

You know the TD-11 can send stereo digital audio back & forth over the USB connection as well as MIDI? It will send the same audio it outputs to the Mains & you can loop it back to monitor. No need for outboard interfaces if you want to record the on board sounds, the TD-11 is a low latency sound card.

[rsosborn Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close rsosborn]

I couldn't get it to work. I plugged the TD-11 into my Mac's USB. Selected the TD-11 driver in Logic's preferences.
I didn't see any signal on the channel I monitored and enabled for recording.

I got it to work with my SPD-SX but not with the TD-11. I was thinking there was a setting in the TD-11
settings to send audio out over USB. I didn't see anything.

You know the TD-11 can send stereo digital audio back & forth over the USB connection as well as MIDI? It will send the same audio it outputs to the Mains & you can loop it back to monitor. No need for outboard interfaces if you want to record the on board sounds, the TD-11 is a low latency sound card.

[mrspiffyca Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close mrspiffyca]

Roland doesn't give much info on this feature & these are the 1st Drum modules to send/receive digital audio over Usb, there is not much help out there. I just spent a few days getting Audacity to record my TD-30 & loop it back to the module for monitoring. Did you download the latest TD-11 Driver & program update (came out 05Dec13 to fix recording not working on certain Macs)? Also for Mac's, try going into "Apple Audio MIDI Setup" & set the "Default Input" & "Properties For" to the TD-11 as well as in Logic. Let us know what happens, the digital audio over Usb is a great feature but there is little info right now on how to set it up.

[rsosborn Registered Member Find all posts View Profile Close rsosborn]

Wow. That sucks.

I'll try the new driver. Didn't know that was out.

I also went through bit of hell. Only certain USB 2.0 A-B cables with the Roland brain. I went through six cables before I found two that work.

Roland doesn't give much info on this feature & these are the 1st Drum modules to send/receive digital audio over Usb, there is not much help out there. I just spent a few days getting Audacity to record my TD-30 & loop it back to the module for monitoring. Did you download the latest TD-11 Driver & program update (came out 05Dec13 to fix recording not working on certain Macs)? Also for Mac's, try going into "Apple Audio MIDI Setup" & set the "Default Input" & "Properties For" to the TD-11 as well as in Logic. Let us know what happens, the digital audio over Usb is a great feature but there is little info right now on how to set it up.