TD-6v update

[dgtlmn]

I would love it if Roland would supply and update to the firmware on this beast that will have some of the functionality of the TD-9 (dual trigger mesh toms, hh foot splash, etc.) I know it's just a pipe-dream, but I'd even be willing to pay for it...up to a point!

[vdrummer20]

I thought the TD6 had this??? My TD6 V could trigger the head and the rim of my PD8 pads (which I now use on my TD12) and I could get the chick/spash sound from my FD8, which is now employed on my 12. I think you have what you are wishing for (which really is a lesson for all of us )

[allanjohn]

He did say dual trigger MESH - i.e piezo/piezo. What it has is peizo/switch.
Jon, all you need is a Keith Raper circuit to convert p/s to p/p. Do a quick search and you'll find what you need.

[dgtlmn]

I know others have done things with splitters to add other toms using the rim set up on the brain. I don't want to go there. It's funny how sometimes you actually get the rim sound off the toms, and sometimes you don't. So it seems it's right there with the brain to work correctly, just not perfect.

Is what I'm hearing that is has to do with the triggers in the mesh heads? I mean, if i plugged into a different brain it would work. So sounds like the trigger isn't the problem, but the brain has an issue. What is so different about the pd-8s to the mesh heads that they couldn't get this to work??? Ok...I guess the triggers? I'm just going on and on here dumping thoughts as they hit my head.

[rbressers]

I guess that Roland stopped supporting the TD6V now that the 9 is out. It also is a pretty old module.

[SuperPuss]

I know others have done things with splitters to add other toms using the rim set up on the brain. I don't want to go there. It's funny how sometimes you actually get the rim sound off the toms, and sometimes you don't. So it seems it's right there with the brain to work correctly, just not perfect.

Is what I'm hearing that is has to do with the triggers in the mesh heads? I mean, if i plugged into a different brain it would work. So sounds like the trigger isn't the problem, but the brain has an issue. What is so different about the pd-8s to the mesh heads that they couldn't get this to work??? Ok...I guess the triggers? I'm just going on and on here dumping thoughts as they hit my head.

If you hit the rim of a dual piezo head hard enough, it will produce a signal large enough to trigger the rim sound (noramally activated with a switch). You will get the same effect if you plug a dual piezo pad into a cymbal input on any Roland module because these are piezo / switch inputs too. I discovered that effect when doing my PD8 dual piezo mod.

[dgtlmn]

don't other modules work just fine dual-triggering with these toms? or, is it really a problem with these particular toms and their triggering? that's kinda what i'm trying to figure out here. from what i'm hearing, it points to a problem with the trigger in the tom itself???

[BarT]

don't other modules work just fine dual-triggering with these toms? or, is it really a problem with these particular toms and their triggering? that's kinda what i'm trying to figure out here. from what i'm hearing, it points to a problem with the trigger in the tom itself???

Yes, mesh toms work fine on a TD-9/12/20. The limitation is on the TD-6V module where the tom inputs are piezo/switch (for a PD-8) not piezo/piezo (for a mesh pad). But it's not really a problem as such, certainly as far as Roland are concerned. The TD-6V module when first released was not intended to be used with mesh head toms (like the even older TD-6 module on which it is very closely based). And since Roland released TD-6V kits with mesh head toms several years later, they advertised those toms as "(single trigger for TD-6V)": TD-6SXT features.

Some users can coax reasonably reliable rim sounds from TD-6V mesh toms with some tweaking (whereas others can't): TD-6V Dual Triggering Mesh Toms: It can be done easily

And the Keith Raper circuit you were referred to could be used to convert the TD-6V inputs for fully reliable mesh tom rim triggering. But it's almost certain that Roland will not be producing any further updates for a module which is now discontinued.


Bruce

[dgtlmn]

oh yeah...i don't expect them to be doing anything about it. that's why it's in the 'wishlist' section! i'll just eventually break down for a newer module, but not anytime soon.

[drumslinger50]

Can someone extend this thought a little more for me, as I use my td6v on stage all the time. Would a tmc-6 added to a td6v fix the dual tom problem and rim problem? I have adjusted the pd-120's and can get a 90% result, but the 10% drives me nuts. Thanks

[BarT]

Can someone extend this thought a little more for me, as I use my td6v on stage all the time. Would a tmc-6 added to a td6v fix the dual tom problem and rim problem? I have adjusted the pd-120's and can get a 90% result, but the 10% drives me nuts. Thanks

Only if you used all six inputs of the TMC-6 for three toms and split their outputs to separate inputs for head and rim piezos. Otherwise, only input 2 on a TMC-6 can handle a dual-piezo mesh pad with a TRS stereo cable on a single input.


Bruce

[cstoliker]

The hh foot splash can be fixed with a small modification to your FD-8. A small felt circle placed on the tip of the resister tape.

http://www.vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23538&highlight=td+hh+click+volume