Hardware wishes

[tpros]

We've had the Brain wishlist, so now I think it's time for a hardware wishlist. I will start.

I would like to see:

1. A good rack (carbon fiber, steel? or how about a drumframe bundled
2. road worthy cymbal booms. I've seen many people's booms crap out on them.
3. No plastic clamps.
4. One of Rolands vertical tick triggers.
5. 19in Rack mount Brain
6. Memory locks for cymbals and drums.

[rus]

I wouldn't mind a different rack material (ie: carbon fiber) but my beaf is the clamps... With the plastic ones, Roland satisfied the 'lightweight' requirement... now we need strong clamps (carbon fibre?)!

My boom arms are ok... no complaints there.

I actually prefer the kd-7 to the upright trampolines... I think theres only me and one other person on this site who feels this way.

Memory locks... YES!

rus

[wincent]

I haven't had my vdrums for long, so I've had no hardware failures or breakages. Nevertheless, reading the complaints on this site, and also inspecting the quality of the components by eye, I am a bit worried.

I'd put at the top of my hardware wishlist an increased strength and quality of all components (particularly rack clamps and cymbal booms). They're really a bit cheap and nasty looking, which they shouldn't be considering the prices roland charges for them! :-)

Second on the list is definitely memory locks!

[ADD]

i agree with the clamp problem but i don't have a huge need for memory locks. one thing that roland needs to address is boom arms though. they move a lot and don't hold the pd-7's or 9's very well.

No rus you aren't the only one that perfers the kd-7 over the kd-80 or 120. I hated my kd-80 and as soon as i started playing the kd-7 i could play faster and more accurate.

[Zigs]

I agree with the cymbal booms. I have had two of them break in the year and a half I have owned my Vs. I replaced them with Gibralter stands and have not had any trouble.
Zigs

[postnuklear]

KD7 rules ,but the clamps and booms suck..

[rus]

What problems are you guys having with the booms? Are you trying to hang off of them or what?!

Seriously, I'd like to see a better way to connect the pads to them, but I don't see boom failure in the near future.

rus

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[Marc.]

Originally posted by feefer:
BTW, you can use the L rods from the Roland clamps, since they fit just fine

How did you separate the rod from the plastic mold?

thnx,




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[Oz DrumR]

Just an observation.

I've played acoustic kits for several years, and V's for about 12 months. I've played many a gig with the acoustics, where at the end of the night I've been belting the hell out of the kit. This is usually because as the night has gone on, the volume of the rest of the band has increased more and more and I've struggled to be heard. Yes, in some situations (esp with no mics on the kit) it is necessary to resemble 'Animal' from the muppets!

However, as we all know it is not necessary to really lay into the V's to increase the volume - there are controls to do that. Admittedly, I've had to adjust my style slightly, however - I don't see a situation where my playing will be such that I break any of the hardware. I read many people saying '. . . .for this sort of money things should be stronger / bigger / tougher . . .' etc, personally 'for this sort of money' I've been prepared to alter my style a little, and take a little more care with this gear than I perhaps did with my acoustics.

I'm not defending the design of the 'V-ware' - Just saying that it all seems 'fit for the purpose' for me.

No matter how heavily constructed the hardware is, there will always be someone who says 'I'm really not happy with the gear . . . all I was doing was climbing up on to the toms, ready to jump over the stage, and a bloody clamp broke'!

Having said all the above, no harm in wanting improvements.

Just my 2 cents.

Incidentally, has anyone managed to break one of the newer clamps that have been going out with the TD-8's for the past few months?

Andy

[Oz DrumR]

Fair point Chris re:Closing the gate AFTER the horse has bolted.

I can't imagine that the Brain mount should be under too much stress (unless it is over tightened). But just out of interest (I'm not doubting you, just curious) Have any of you had a pad (or module) break after it falling off a broken clamp?

Given that the pads (at least the head) are specifically designed to be struck (Obviously hard)with a piece of timber, I'd have thought that a pad would withstand a drop from 1 - 1.5m . . . No - I don't want to try!

Whilst I'm on the subject - has anyone broken a pad by over hitting . . . . what is the lifespan of these things?!

[BtnkBndt]

Heres an original post by Wolfy a while back:

I was just playing it one day, and out of nowhere, my ride pad just goes crashing to the floor.

The thread:
http://www.vdrums.com/discussion/For...ML/000023.html

[rus]

Originally posted by feefer:
Hi all,

A cross-post, but here's my solution to the clamp issue:
[URL=http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/shop/perc/010103152932209178173172283982?pid=449045]http://www.musiciansfriend.com/ex/shop/perc/010103152932209178173172283982?pid=449045[/UR L]

Sound Percussion clamps are EXACTLY the same as the Gibraltar Rack Multi-clamps, just alot cheaper ($9). I paid $20 for Gibraltar's version, a few months ago. Print out that page, and the big chains will price-match.

$90 later, and the pads seems alot more sturdy now. It's nice not to have to disconnect the rack to get a clamp off... I might put springs over the bolts in the future, if I remember.

BTW, you can use the L rods from the Roland clamps, since they fit just fine. I also took the hand-knobs off the Roland clamps, and replaced most of the recessed bolts in the rack so I don't need to use an Allen wrench (PITA).

Chris

Even though I have removed it from my signature line, I HATE MUSICIANS FIEND (not a spelling error). Does ANYone else sell these?

rus

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[sepdrums]

Hey Rus... I am going to look for them at NAMM and try to get the clamps in stock.. That is a great price.

Erik

[rus]

Originally posted by sepdrums:
Hey Rus... I am going to look for them at NAMM and try to get the clamps in stock.. That is a great price.

Erik

<Mr. Burns>Eeeexcellent</Mr. Burns>

rus

[Zigs]

Rus, With regard to your inquiry about the cymbal boom problems, I had two of them break in the same place (at the boom joint itself) The weld simply broke and then everything came down with it. I dont think it was overtightened. It can still be used however. It is too difficult to describe how it broke but to fix it I put a heavy washer right under the wing nut on the boom. But just for added reassurance, when playing out I use the Gibralter booms.