Positional Sensing?

[steingra]

First a question...I am assuming 'positional sensing' is the ability of an electronic drumhead to pick up sounds being made by stiking different parts of the drumhead, like on an acoustic drum?

OK so.....
Can the TD-8 / Vstage or TD-6 V-club handle this? Can it handle it in a default from the factory configuration or else via enhancements/updates?


THANKS AGAIN!!!

[Neil70]

As far as I know, the TD6 doesn't have positional sensing. There is no upgrade for the TD6 to overcome this either.

I believe both the TD8 and 10 support this feature with the proper pad (PD80, 100, 120 with or without rim trigger).

[steingra]

Thats good news if the TD-8 will support it. Not that I am good enough yet to need it. But as I am evaluating the sets, its seem prudent to want that feature for later on down the old road....when I do get better. Then I can upgrade to different pad

[ambivert]

I believe positional sensing is only available on the Snare for the TD-8. The TD-12 and 20 offer it on the snare and toms I believe, but I'm not sure about the TD-12 and 20 toms for sure. One thing that would help me in my purchasing decision is determining whether the TD-8 has the same quality positional sensing as the TD-12/20. The TD-8 seems to machine gun and I believe this is its only weakness. Does anybody know if the TD-3 uses the same base module engine that the TD-12 and 20 use for positional sensing and machine gunning repression? I know the TD3 lacks the CMOS or whatever that feature is called where you can manipulate the physics modelling of your drums and cymbals. The TD-8 has way more factory presets and tweaking features than the TD-3. I think the TD-8 similarly lacks dual trigs on the toms, just as the TD-3 lacks. This means that as a triggering source the TD-3 may be the better solution for me to trigger outside samples on my PC if the TD-3 has superior positional sensing on the snare and exceptional machine gun repression. I will try and find this out today at Sam Ash.

I just hilariously realized that I responded to a post that was written 3 years ago I guess my input won't be much help here for you now.

[Studio78]

Hi

I know this is a late reply (not as late as the former replier), but this is exactly what I also wonder. It would be fantastic if someone could analyse the outcoming MIDI data from the TD-3 module (when being played on with eg a snare that sends positional sensing data). Does anyone know if the TD-3 module sends advanced MIDI data as the TD-20?

[StevenK]

I believe positional sensing is only available on the Snare for the TD-8. The TD-12 and 20 offer it on the snare and toms I believe, but I'm not sure about the TD-12 and 20 toms for sure. One thing that would help me in my purchasing decision is determining whether the TD-8 has the same quality positional sensing as the TD-12/20. The TD-8 seems to machine gun and I believe this is its only weakness. Does anybody know if the TD-3 uses the same base module engine that the TD-12 and 20 use for positional sensing and machine gunning repression?

Hi,
TD-12/20 have positional sensing on snare, ride, and the rim-shots (snare and toms) - there is no pos. sens. for the head of the toms. Therefor it doesn't make sense to compare with the TD-8. If you look at the snare only the pos. sensing will be comparable. The machine gun effect is not an issue on the snare for TD-12/20, due to "interleave control" feature.
The TD-3 has some TD-20 related sounds, it doesn't have the same base module engine. So TD-3 is an entry-level module without pos. sensing, interleave control, COSM, complex hihat-model, etc. etc. - it is just a nice module with only few sounds but with great features if you start to learn drumming. The TD-8, on the other hand, is a nice module for experienced e-drummers if you don't have the money for the latest generation of V-drums.
CU, Stephan

[StevenK]

Hi

I know this is a late reply (not as late as the former replier), but this is exactly what I also wonder. It would be fantastic if someone could analyse the outcoming MIDI data from the TD-3 module (when being played on with eg a snare that sends positional sensing data). Does anyone know if the TD-3 module sends advanced MIDI data as the TD-20?

Hi,
I haven't analysed, but surely pos. sensing is an advanced feature that requires some computation by the module. Even the flagship of Yamaha's edrums the "DTXtreme IIs" doesn't support it anymore...
CU, Stephan

[Calken]

I find the positional sensing quite poor on the TD8 using the PD120. I might have it setup wrong, but I can never get a shallow sound.

Chris.

[StevenK]

I find the positional sensing quite poor on the TD8 using the PD120. I might have it setup wrong, but I can never get a shallow sound.

Chris.

Hi,
interesting statement! I am not a TD-8 owner but this was my observation, too - when I played the TD-8 occasionally (during Musikmesse). The TD-10 was much more "expressive". Maybe the TD-8 is designed to work with the PD-80R...
CU, Stephan