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    I have a TD-7 drumset and a Drumkat DK10 at the music store where I teach. I didn't play snare drum in the school band so I don't teach that to my students. They want to learn rhythms and fills and be able to play drums in a band. They don't desire to be "Percussionists"

    Here is the dilemma: The store owner wants to hire a "band director" (who must need the extra cash) to teach what I call "school stuff" (rudiments, x-stroke rolls, counting measues).

    The Kicker: The owner wants to know if this guy can use my e-drum set (that I very nervously leave set up at the store). I don't think it is right to let someone else use around $1,000 of equipment for free to make money for themselves.

    What would you do?
    I'm a drummer. I don't play the timpani! Hire a percussionist!!!

  • #2
    Hard one, man. To be honest, I don't think I'd leave my kit at the store at all, but that's just me, and since you already do, that's a problem. If I was in the same boat, I'd just agree to start teaching rudiments, etc and pick up the extra teaching gig, but I don't know your background. I guess the bottom line for me is, no, I wouldn't leave my kit there for the other guy to use, unless I knew him very, very well. He doesn't need a full kit to teach at that level, anyway. A snare and/or pad will do.

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    • #3
      Rent it out?
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      • #4
        yeah, unless you're getting paid for letting someone else use your gear (renting) don't leave it. I'm soooo paranoid about letting my gear out of my site that I make my friends/band members watch it when i'm away. If it were me i wouldn't do it unless you're getting compensation so if anything breaks or gets stolen you can replace it w/o too much greif.

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        • #5
          this "band director" can't get ahold of one freaking snare anywhere?my ass........tell him(in a diplomatic way)to kiss your drum playing ass.sounds like a goofy situation to me.if it does'nt sound right,it probably is'nt.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by GRRAVEE
            this "band director" can't get ahold of one freaking snare anywhere?my ass........tell him(in a diplomatic way)to kiss your drum playing ass.sounds like a goofy situation to me.if it does'nt sound right,it probably is'nt.
            GRRAVEE, your killin' me (but I agree with you 100%)! Never one to "beat" around the bush huh?
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            • #7
              Evaluate long term benifits...

              OK, now for a totally different perspective (mind you without all of your facts):

              You might want to consider the age old saying "one hand washes another". By discussing with the new teacher what your needs are, he/she may end up referring some clients back to you. In an age of over materilist focus, some good natured fellow support can make the differance between long term success and missed opportunities. It's all about networking, and the people.

              I routinely let people play on my VDrums and Zendrum, but only after a quick 60 second walk thru of the do's and don'ts. Most people are very appreciative of the opportunity to play on my equipment, show a true respect for it, and walk away saying "wow that Tom is a really nice guy", vice "boy that Tom is sure stuck up on himself (etc., etc.)".

              Granted it is your gear and you have a right to control it as you see fit, but do at least consider the long term benifits of helping someone out, meeting them halfway before making your final decision.

              He who helps the most people get what they what, will get what they want.

              Just my 2 cents counter opinion.
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              • #8
                I second the renting idea. You can't go wrong doing that, just as long as you have a signed contract stating any penalties for destruction of your gear.

                Andy
                The best damn kid in the record industry. Maybe.

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                • #9
                  As long as someone is going to be held responsible if something breaks on your kit, I wouldn't have a problem letting him use it to teach other students.
                  If the band director is responsible if something breaks, then, I wouldn't be too concerned with it.
                  This way you're the "good guy" by being generous to share so that others may be able to learn.
                  Woody

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                    • #11
                      Tom, you make some good points.

                      There is a noise problem where I teach. Electronic drums is the only acceptable way to teach drums at this location. This "band director" does not have any e-drums. Guitar is the main instrument taught at this store and each instructor has his own little room, except for me. My drum set would not fit in a 6x6 room.

                      I never leave the module at the store. I usually use my TD-6. I have an old TD-7 I plan to leave there for this guy to use. I have an old snare I put a trigger in. He can use that too. That should be all he needs.

                      The store owner assures me any damage will be his responsibility. I have not met the guy and I think I should before this goes down. We need some ground rules.

                      Thanks guys!!!!!
                      I'm a drummer. I don't play the timpani! Hire a percussionist!!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by clymore
                        [B]...There is a noise problem where I teach. Electronic drums is the only acceptable way to teach drums at this location. This "band director" does not have any e-drums... [B]
                        I guess I don't get it. All I need to teach rudiments and counting is a couple of practice pads! No noise, no problems. What does this guy need a whole Ekit for?

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                        • #13
                          That is true. A snare drum with a pad is all he needs. Or a triggered snare drum and a module. The owner says I will still get all the "drum set" students. If I find out different, I will probably pull all my equipment out of there.
                          I'm a drummer. I don't play the timpani! Hire a percussionist!!!

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                          • #14
                            Well, I guess this situation finally worked out. I noticed this guy has an acoustic snare drum with a rubber sound dampening pad in his teaching booth. That is all he needs anyway. He is giving private lessons to band students. He doesn't play drumset and neither do his students. If they want to learn, they can come to me.

                            Terry
                            I'm a drummer. I don't play the timpani! Hire a percussionist!!!

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