Critical of Edrums

[mbrg]

Hi. I have been looking into purchasing a edrum set. I have played the high end Vsession($4500) set and was very impressed. I wanted multiple opinions on them and have recieved a negative one from houseofdrumming.com. Please read below and let me know what you think. Thanks!
mbrg


I think those drums are fun but and can aide those times when you NEED to play but can't. I don't see it as an alternative to playing real drums though obviously and they're pretty expensive too.
They're just fun but I don't take them too seriously.

Good luck!

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Steve
Subject: edrums

[mbrg]

Good point. I really dont know what this guy is talking about. But then again, I'm new to drumming........

[puttenvr]

Originally posted by Harlock
Here's a guy that doesn't take drumming too seriously : ?Drummer playing V-Drums

Don't forget
1. Neil Peart is a professional drummer with all the advantages a pro drummer has. Never - I say NEVER - comparse this to your own situation
2. Peart plays acoustic drums for 97 percent !


mbrg, the guy on the forum can be right. It all depends on what you want. If you want to use the e-drums for practicing at home or as an addition to an acoustic kit live, the're great. Lot of drummers also use a hybrid (mixed) kit.

For live playing a full electronic drumkit will give lots of problems. There aren't therefor many drummers who do use a full e-kit live. Look around.

[GRRAVEE]

myself and mybrother get 85% pro recordings out of home gear.is it hard?yes........is it fun?yes.can i get a better drum sound when recording from the v's then when i used a's.how about 1000% better.and virtually no hassle.will they work better live?i have no idea.knowing myself,i could get what i want out of em live.(i'm real real stubborn) i absolutley love em.but research as much as you can.if i wanted an akg c3000b for my bro's acoustic tracks.and 1 person said it sucked for acoustic.i would buy one anyway.if 35 people said it sucked for acoustic tracks,i would buy something else.try what you can(always)and a lot of good advice can be had from boards such as these.but you'll have to sort thru b.s. sometimes and the occasional comical rant. (which i've never done )

[mbrg]

My concern is that if I learn on them and then play on an acoustic set, will I sound like **it? Obviously, it would take some time to become adjusted to an acoustic set and learn how to make them sound good, but I dont see any harm in learing on V's. My plan at this point (about 2-3weeks) is to purchase an acoustic set and play on them for about 2yrs. By then, my wife will be entering a medical school and that is when V's enter the picture. I played them the other day and I think they are amazing. I was blown away by them. And again, I am only playing for fun and a hobby. I will not be performing live or anything like that.

BTW, Rush Hold Your Fire is great. Just bought it. Lock and Key especially.

[GRRAVEE]

your accuracy will be much improved on the v's.i turn the sensitivity way down so i''l stay in the happit of hitting harder.also,i find i can hide slop on the a's but v's give back every hit(sorts) due to the sampling.my oppinion is they make ME a better a drummer.results may vary,void where prohibited.

[puttenvr]

Originally posted by GRRAVEE
your accuracy will be much improved on the v's.i turn the sensitivity way down so i''l stay in the happit of hitting harder..

accuracy?
hitting harder?

that speaks contra eachother

[postnuklear]

I think what GRRAVEE meant was that when you have low sensitivity, a harder hit would actually make a clear difference, therefore, loudness is directly proportional to strength, which is quite accurate for a percussive instrument.

[GRRAVEE]

accuracy:hitting 10"s and 12"s as opposed to hitting 14's,16'sand 18's.........harder:as in v's can make us a bit lazy physically since a hard strike isn't necessary.atleast with me.i'll get onto a set of a's and tap them insted of striking them.just a minor adjustment i've noticed that i sometimes have to make.

[Ranman]

Originally posted by c. jude
...a properly set up electronic kit will function as well in a stadium as in a living room.

Here Here! (or is it 'Hear Hear'?)

I gig'd my V's for the first time this weekend and had a ball. We played outdoors, had a bass, two guitars, keyboards, vocals and the V's. Played tunes from Green Day, Poison, Pink Floyd, Cheap Trick, Lit, etc. - nothing but good rock tunes with a solid beat. The V's pulled it off extremely well!! Good solid thumping bass. Nice crisp snare 'crack'. Clean and mean cymbals. Everyone in the band, the audience AND the neighborhood enjoyed the performance. I got many, many reviews about the drums - most often hearing "Those sounded great!" and "Had I not SEEN them I could never tell that they weren't real drums!". LOL

Later in the evening (around 10:00) we decided to cut the volume considerably. We stuck to the agressive set list and still had a great mix, though, becsause we could simply drop the gain on the V's - something unatainable with A's.

Put me down as THRILLED with my V's as real gig-able drums!

[Rythmstik]

Originally posted by Ranman

...I got many, many reviews about the drums - most often hearing "Those sounded great!" and "Had I not SEEN them I could never tell that they weren't real drums!". LOL...

That's exactly the kinds of comments I get gigging with the V-Clubs!

...becsause we could simply drop the gain on the V's - something unatainable with A's.

My band has really come to appreciate that aspect of the V's, as well - we can play as hard as we like and easily adjust the levels of the entire band to the situation. We also have a much cleaner sound on stage. Gotta love 'em!

[Ranman]

Shock...

I really think that sometimes it is just a matter of getting over the shock. The shock that (a) they don't look like drums, (b) the cymbals don't flop around like cymbals are supposed to (I'm getting to like the PD7s) and (c) that (shudder) the drummer is so much more visible!

In our case it also helped that the guy running the board really knows his stuff. He was able to mix the instrument and drop just the right EQ onto the drums to give them the presence they required.

Actually, the only problem I did have was that my kick pedal kept detaching from the KD80. But that was the cheap-ass pedal's fault. I'll need to address that.

[puttenvr]

Originally posted by c. jude
What if you are a pro drummer too and (DrummerX) doesn't have access to anything you don't?

??

If you have decent gear and know what you are doing, a properly set up electronic kit will function as well in a stadium as in a living room.

Not true.
a. it never rains in my living room. In stadiums it does.
b. I don't need a sound engineer at home. In a stadium I do. Which means I can't control the sound myself.
c. I don't play with other electrified instruments at home. In a stadium I do. Which means I can't control the full band sound or triggering. Example: the bass guitar player resounds into my drumpads.

BTW: a stadium is far from reality. I play in small bars. Neil Peart plays in stadium. But he's professional.

There are zillions of ekits played live.

Sorry, but I don't see them. A few wedding bands use them. Some drummer do a bit triggering.

[Ranman]

Originally posted by puttenvr
a. it never rains in my living room. In stadiums it does.
b. I don't need a sound engineer at home. In a stadium I do. Which means I can't control the sound myself.
c. I don't play with other electrified instruments at home. In a stadium I do. Which means I can't control the full band sound or triggering. Example: the bass guitar player resounds into my drumpads.

ALL of the same can be said for A's and E's alike.

[Ranman]

Originally posted by puttenvr
Sorry, but I don't see them. A few wedding bands use them. Some drummer do a bit triggering.

Here's one...
Mike Hossack