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  • Rosanna Sticking

    Anyone know the sticking for Rosanna? can't make it out off Youtube.

    I know it's triplets (H-H ... SN ... H-H) but the snare seems to fall on the right hand and not the left.

    So do i just play an extra snare accented at the same time as that right hi hat? so it's (H-H ... SN ...H-H ... H-H ... SN ... H-H ... (H-H/SN) SN ... H-H)

    If so it seems damn hard to return to that snare ghost straight after the snare accent at speed.

    Grrrrrr
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  • #2
    DB, you're right that's the sticking. I've also had trouble with the ghost note directly after the snare beat. I guess that's why Porcaro was a master.
    Roland Td-11KV, Alesis SamplePad, DW5000 pedal, Vater 7A sticks.

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    • #3
      Assuming you're a right-handed player:-

      H = Hi-Hat (right hand)
      S = Snare (left hand)

      Bold = Accent
      lower case 's' = Ghost notes

      4 Bars:-

      1 - - - - - - - - - - - - 2 - - - - - - - - - - -
      H - s - H - H - s - H - H+S - H - H - s - H -
      3 - - - - - - - - - - - - 4 - - - - - - - - - - -
      H - s - H - H - s - H - H+S - H - H - s - H -

      The best thing to do is to work through it really slowly and build up the speed.


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      • #4
        That ghost note is the difference between a a shuffle and a good shuffle. It's tricky. I am working on it also.
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        • #5
          http://www.drummerworld.com/drummers/Jeff_Porcaro.html

          Good link. Jeff discusses how he was inspired by the "Purdy" shuffle and Bonzo.

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          • #6
            Here's a real-time demonstration but really no sticking explanation. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knE8dbmHDqs
            I'm still looking though. I bought a Jeff Porcaro video about 10 years ago and it had a supplement that showed the sticking but I let someone borrow it and ain't seen it since.
            Roland Td-11KV, Alesis SamplePad, DW5000 pedal, Vater 7A sticks.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MisterMR View Post
              Assuming you're a right-handed player:-

              H = Hi-Hat (right hand)
              S = Snare (left hand)

              Bold = Accent
              lower case 's' = Ghost notes

              4 Bars:-

              1 - - - - - - - - - - - - 2 - - - - - - - - - - -
              H - s - H - H - s - H - H+S - H - H - s - H -
              3 - - - - - - - - - - - - 4 - - - - - - - - - - -
              H - s - H - H - s - H - H+S - H - H - s - H -

              The best thing to do is to work through it really slowly and build up the speed.
              Isn't there another snare ghost note directly after the snare accent?
              Roland Td-11KV, Alesis SamplePad, DW5000 pedal, Vater 7A sticks.

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              • #8
                I've put together a short video on YouTube to show how I play it. I've tried to play the sticking slow enough (it's actually harder to play slow than it is up to speed!) so that hopefully, you can see and hear how it works.

                Hope it helps!

                http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rf9KT4Vg6JY&fmt=18

                Or you could just watch this guy... he's much better at it than I am...!

                http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5JIPd-kn8c8
                Last edited by MisterMR; 11-12-08, 09:19 AM.


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                • #9
                  Wow thanks guys, you are all very kind and helpful

                  MisterMR great playing and sound there ...
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                  • #10
                    When I first saw the title of this thread Dave, I was tempted to post a reply saying "Take the CD out and give it a clean!!!"

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by daveybabes View Post
                      MisterMR great playing and sound there ...
                      Thanks!


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SuperPuss View Post
                        When I first saw the title of this thread Dave, I was tempted to post a reply saying "Take the CD out and give it a clean!!!"
                        HERK! SP made a funny!

                        That video gave me everything I needed to play the groove. Playing it up to speed? Now that's anther thing entirely!
                        Last edited by stickinthemud; 11-13-08, 10:38 AM.

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                        • #13
                          I've just watched the Jeff Poccaro video again on YouTube. Since this post started, I've not been able to get that tune out of my head!!

                          The Rosanna Groove is just awesome.

                          Jeff was such a great drummer...


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                          • #14
                            Here's the thing.
                            MisterMR, I noticed you play the kick and the snare together on 4 in the measure. I always thought the snare was hit alone on the 4.
                            Porcaro plays the beat at two different parts on his video...and he plays the snare and kick together....but not in the first measure, only subsequent measures.
                            To make it even more confusing, I'm convinced that the original recording does not use the snare/kick together on 4...ever.
                            Have a listen:
                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx08_...eature=related

                            Great chops btw, MisterMR.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by stickinthemud View Post
                              HERK! SP made a funny!
                              Well, sort of!!!
                              That video gave me everything I needed to play the groove. Playing it up to speed? Now that's anther thing entirely!
                              Agreed on all points. I've just started to get the feel for playing a shuffle with a few ghost notes....the Porcaro shuffle however...... that will take some time!!

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