quick TDW-1 Question

[lethic]

Im wondering if I buy/install the Expansion Card, whether it will mess with my current settings's (as in do more than add, but modify) and if so what. I want to know if I should write down any settings, or plan on having any of my sequences messed with. Will my trigger settings be changed? thanks in advance.

-Jarek Poloney

[Boingo]

Re: quick TDW-1 Question

Originally posted by lethic
Im wondering if I buy/install the Expansion Card, whether it will mess with my current settings's (as in do more than add, but modify) and if so what. I want to know if I should write down any settings, or plan on having any of my sequences messed with. Will my trigger settings be changed? thanks in advance.

-Jarek Poloney

Overall your settings will remain as is. There are a few settings which are different. I don't recall hearing any difference after the conversion. The changes you hear in tweaking are certainly more dramatic. The pattern change has annoyed some people. If you would want to write down anything, I'd think it would be trigger settings. Here's some stuff from the manual.


The compressor can now be applied more strongly, and
the settings now have different strengths (p. 16). [The seetings remain the same but now your compressor actually works.]

A Trigger parameter has been added, and the effect of
the values has been modified (p, 11).

The new version detects very minute signals more accurately
than the previous version.
Sensitivity and Threshold resolution have been expanded
from 16 steps to 32 steps. Sensitivity 3 in a non-expanded TD-
10 is equivalent to Sensitivity 6 in the expanded version.

Percussion group 1 is changed
New percussion instruments are assigned (p. 25).

Some of the preset patterns have been replaced (p. 25). In
some cases, this will affect the settings of pad patterns
specified for a drum kit.

When data of a non-expanded TD-10 is received, the
compressor settings will be ignored, and the factory
default values will be set. Trigger parameter settings will
be ignored.

[Stixx777]

It will wipe out all your settings. As it re-intilizes your TD-10. Anything you have that you want to keep either write down or save to the memory card. All the factory kits will be there but any custom kits will be wiped out. There are a couple of sequences that get replaced also. I believe that any user sequences would be wiped out also. If you are just going from the TDW-1 to a TDW-1 with cymbal control your setting don't get wiped out because it is the same expansion board.

[mfmia]

Re: Re: quick TDW-1 Question

I just bought a used td-10 expanded (it's being shipped today)but I don't know if it's the v1 or v2. When you boot up will it say? Also I understand that I can send it to Roland for the free upgrade, has anybody done this and how long did it take? Thanks

Originally posted by Boingo


Overall your settings will remain as is. There are a few settings which are different. I don't recall hearing any difference after the conversion. The changes you hear in tweaking are certainly more dramatic. The pattern change has annoyed some people. If you would want to write down anything, I'd think it would be trigger settings. Here's some stuff from the manual.


The compressor can now be applied more strongly, and
the settings now have different strengths (p. 16). [The seetings remain the same but now your compressor actually works.]

A Trigger parameter has been added, and the effect of
the values has been modified (p, 11).

The new version detects very minute signals more accurately
than the previous version.
Sensitivity and Threshold resolution have been expanded
from 16 steps to 32 steps. Sensitivity 3 in a non-expanded TD-
10 is equivalent to Sensitivity 6 in the expanded version.

Percussion group 1 is changed
New percussion instruments are assigned (p. 25).

Some of the preset patterns have been replaced (p. 25). In
some cases, this will affect the settings of pad patterns
specified for a drum kit.

When data of a non-expanded TD-10 is received, the
compressor settings will be ignored, and the factory
default values will be set. Trigger parameter settings will
be ignored.

[Boingo]

Re: Re: Re: quick TDW-1 Question

Originally posted by mfmia
I just bought a used td-10 expanded (it's being shipped today)but I don't know if it's the v1 or v2. When you boot up will it say? Also I understand that I can send it to Roland for the free upgrade, has anybody done this and how long did it take? Thanks

It will be obvious when it boots up.

How long depends on current backlog at Roland. Some have had it done in a week, others 2 weeks, some longer. You should call them.

[Boingo]

Originally posted by Stixx777
It will wipe out all your settings. As it re-intilizes your TD-10. Anything you have that you want to keep either write down or save to the memory card. All the factory kits will be there but any custom kits will be wiped out. There are a couple of sequences that get replaced also. I believe that any user sequences would be wiped out also. If you are just going from the TDW-1 to a TDW-1 with cymbal control your setting don't get wiped out because it is the same expansion board.

Man! that went right by me . I missed the most important part. For some reason I was thinking of settings and not including kits. I should not respond early in the morning BC (before coffee).

Somehow I think we will soon be seeing the classic post, "can I get back my original 50 kits?".

[Stixx777]

You can send it back to Roland and turn it around in about a week if you pay some extra cash. I sent mine out UPS RED(next day) and paid Roland to send it back the same way. They say they can upgrade it within 48 hours of receiving it. Call Roland first though to get an RA # and they should tell you about the over night shipping for a small fee( a lot less then I paid to send it that way.) When you fire up the TD-10 it will have a V-Cymbal control splash while it is intilizing that is how you will know what version you have. Remember that while the TDW-1 is away no one can play the TD-10.

[Boingo]

Re: quick TDW-1 Question

Originally posted by lethic
Im wondering if I buy/install the Expansion Card, whether it will mess with my current settings's (as in do more than add, but modify) and if so what. I want to know if I should write down any settings, or plan on having any of my sequences messed with. Will my trigger settings be changed? thanks in advance.

-Jarek Poloney

here's the tdw-1 manual - look it over before you buy it.

TDW-1 MANUAL

sorry - needed the web space
see Cyberjam's web site to download

[lethic]

Thanks to everyone who replied, I really appreciate it
-Jarek