Hello Everyone, first post on this board!
I'm currently looking at electronic drums because I'm thinking about buying one in a really near future.
My two choices are the Roland Td-12 and the Yamaha DTXtreme III (3) Standard Edition.
I work on a night shift and I have about 2 hours to play from when I wake up to when I have to go to work. That leaves me with not a lot of time to play drums (been playing for 10 years, yet I've got that job for a month now and I miss drumming). I want to play when I get back from work, which is 4:30 am but gotta love neighbors... I'll use the kit that way. 70 to 80% of the time as a real drum, the rest of the time as an hybrid kit for my acoustic drum, to trigger different sounds (similar to what Peart does before the big band part in his drum solo, both O baterista and Der Trommler)
Here's my dilema...
Yamaha DTXtreme III
Pros :
- Easy-to-use sound module
- Sampling is extremely easy
- Great feeling on cymbals
- USB capability for the sound module
- The drum doesn't look small
- Good pad size
- Easy-to-use Interface
Cons:
- Rubber pads (not that I REALLY care about them, I don't find them annoying, but they're not as realistic as mesh pads
- kick tower is kinda wierd
- Hi-hat stand isn't included with the drum
Roland TD-12
Pros:
- Feeling of the mesh pad -> Awesomeness
- Cosm (See questions below)
- Vlink (see questions below)
- Sound module looks easy to use
- Cymbals are great, find them similar to the Yamaha's, I'd say they're even to me
Cons:
- Midget pad size
- Rim is in the way because of the pad size and if you angle the toms the rims are harder to reach
As for now, that's the pros and cons I've been able to come up for the 2 kits.
So now... questions!
1. I like how easy it is to sample something and use it as a voice for a designated drum pad. I don't know if you can do this on a roland without a computer... can you? (plug a mic in your auxiliary input or for instance a guitar, record, assign, and use the voice you've just made in just a few minutes)
2. Can you change the type, size, depth and etc. of your shells, tension of your drum head with the yamaha module like you can do with the roland? (I think that feature is the "cosm" thing, but I'm not sure at all... didn't read a lot about that)
3. Lets say I like the sound of my friend's cymbal. I take it home with me for the weekend. With the Yamaha, I can record the sound of it and assign it to one of my cymbals for example. Can I do that with roland without having to use a computer?
4. I think you can use different sounds (lets say a trumpet sound) you get on the internet and transfer them as user voice to your module using a usb device. On what module(s) can you do that?
5. If I want to put my own sounds on the td-12, do I absolutely have to use the midi output?
6. Can I use the Roland td-12 pads with the Yamaha DTXtreme III sound module?
That's the questions I had...
If anybody could answer those 6 questions and give me their 2 cents for both kits it would help me a lot
So thanks to everyone who can help me make a better choice and find the right drum for me, or try to, I greatly appreciate your help.
- Gost
I'm currently looking at electronic drums because I'm thinking about buying one in a really near future.
My two choices are the Roland Td-12 and the Yamaha DTXtreme III (3) Standard Edition.
I work on a night shift and I have about 2 hours to play from when I wake up to when I have to go to work. That leaves me with not a lot of time to play drums (been playing for 10 years, yet I've got that job for a month now and I miss drumming). I want to play when I get back from work, which is 4:30 am but gotta love neighbors... I'll use the kit that way. 70 to 80% of the time as a real drum, the rest of the time as an hybrid kit for my acoustic drum, to trigger different sounds (similar to what Peart does before the big band part in his drum solo, both O baterista and Der Trommler)
Here's my dilema...
Yamaha DTXtreme III
Pros :
- Easy-to-use sound module
- Sampling is extremely easy
- Great feeling on cymbals
- USB capability for the sound module
- The drum doesn't look small
- Good pad size
- Easy-to-use Interface
Cons:
- Rubber pads (not that I REALLY care about them, I don't find them annoying, but they're not as realistic as mesh pads
- kick tower is kinda wierd
- Hi-hat stand isn't included with the drum
Roland TD-12
Pros:
- Feeling of the mesh pad -> Awesomeness
- Cosm (See questions below)
- Vlink (see questions below)
- Sound module looks easy to use
- Cymbals are great, find them similar to the Yamaha's, I'd say they're even to me
Cons:
- Midget pad size
- Rim is in the way because of the pad size and if you angle the toms the rims are harder to reach
As for now, that's the pros and cons I've been able to come up for the 2 kits.
So now... questions!
1. I like how easy it is to sample something and use it as a voice for a designated drum pad. I don't know if you can do this on a roland without a computer... can you? (plug a mic in your auxiliary input or for instance a guitar, record, assign, and use the voice you've just made in just a few minutes)
2. Can you change the type, size, depth and etc. of your shells, tension of your drum head with the yamaha module like you can do with the roland? (I think that feature is the "cosm" thing, but I'm not sure at all... didn't read a lot about that)
3. Lets say I like the sound of my friend's cymbal. I take it home with me for the weekend. With the Yamaha, I can record the sound of it and assign it to one of my cymbals for example. Can I do that with roland without having to use a computer?
4. I think you can use different sounds (lets say a trumpet sound) you get on the internet and transfer them as user voice to your module using a usb device. On what module(s) can you do that?
5. If I want to put my own sounds on the td-12, do I absolutely have to use the midi output?
6. Can I use the Roland td-12 pads with the Yamaha DTXtreme III sound module?
That's the questions I had...
If anybody could answer those 6 questions and give me their 2 cents for both kits it would help me a lot
So thanks to everyone who can help me make a better choice and find the right drum for me, or try to, I greatly appreciate your help.
- Gost
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