As I get a little further into the TMC-6, I'm also discovering some little conflicts, mainly having to do with the TD-10/W-1.
The TMC is probably meant more as a standalone pad-to-midi box, than an accessory to successfully expand the V-Drums (using a TD-10; not sure about the TD-8 or 6 with respect to what I'm describing.) Actually, the problem lies more with the TD-10.
In attempting to add pads to trigger additional tom sounds - that's right, 4 is not enough - the TMC sent midi and all that just fine. In fact, the response is instant and feels perfect. BUT, the TD-10 generally wants add-on midi triggers to talk to it via Percussion Groups. The problem with that is, there are no V-edit capabilities within the Perc Groups, so matching an auxiliary V-tom to the existing 4 V-toms will be tricky - there are no head or muffling adjustments.
Thanks to some suggestions, I adjusted the TMC's midi notes to directly play the 'rims' of the main toms, hoping that I'd get back some of the sound parameters.
The TD-10 is very clever.
It knows that a 'rim' doesn't need to be muffled or have a different head type, so those parameters are conveniently deleted on those specific notes! Basically, it's the same as going through the Percussion Group. And more than that, the TD-10 also knows that a rim and its drum would appear in the same panning position, so it won't allow separate placement of the rim and its specific drum! At least going through the Percussion Groups allows panning.
I was almost beginning to envision using the TMC to insert cymbals, and then use the former cymbal inputs on the TD-10 for tom sounds, but again it's a clever unit - it also knows that 'cymbals' don't need muffling or head type selection, and those TD-10 inputs will not allow such adjustments!
So, the TMC doesn't seem to be a perfect addition for the V-drums. It does easily enable adding certain sounds, but in my situation, where I want to add 2 toms with the same timbre & head types as the main 4 toms, it doesn't seem possible with the TMC, and the TD-10 won't do it by itself.
Grrrr......
Don't get me wrong, the TMC is cool, but it's not necessarily for everyone who has V-Drums, and it shouldn't automatically be considered the 'next step' for your rig.
If someone discovers that these events are NOT the case, please let me know!! I don't claim to know a lot about the TD-10 or TMC yet, but these are conflicts I am discovering as I go along.
Bermuda
[This message has been edited by bermuda (edited March 03, 2002).]
The TMC is probably meant more as a standalone pad-to-midi box, than an accessory to successfully expand the V-Drums (using a TD-10; not sure about the TD-8 or 6 with respect to what I'm describing.) Actually, the problem lies more with the TD-10.
In attempting to add pads to trigger additional tom sounds - that's right, 4 is not enough - the TMC sent midi and all that just fine. In fact, the response is instant and feels perfect. BUT, the TD-10 generally wants add-on midi triggers to talk to it via Percussion Groups. The problem with that is, there are no V-edit capabilities within the Perc Groups, so matching an auxiliary V-tom to the existing 4 V-toms will be tricky - there are no head or muffling adjustments.
Thanks to some suggestions, I adjusted the TMC's midi notes to directly play the 'rims' of the main toms, hoping that I'd get back some of the sound parameters.
The TD-10 is very clever.
It knows that a 'rim' doesn't need to be muffled or have a different head type, so those parameters are conveniently deleted on those specific notes! Basically, it's the same as going through the Percussion Group. And more than that, the TD-10 also knows that a rim and its drum would appear in the same panning position, so it won't allow separate placement of the rim and its specific drum! At least going through the Percussion Groups allows panning.
I was almost beginning to envision using the TMC to insert cymbals, and then use the former cymbal inputs on the TD-10 for tom sounds, but again it's a clever unit - it also knows that 'cymbals' don't need muffling or head type selection, and those TD-10 inputs will not allow such adjustments!
So, the TMC doesn't seem to be a perfect addition for the V-drums. It does easily enable adding certain sounds, but in my situation, where I want to add 2 toms with the same timbre & head types as the main 4 toms, it doesn't seem possible with the TMC, and the TD-10 won't do it by itself.
Grrrr......
Don't get me wrong, the TMC is cool, but it's not necessarily for everyone who has V-Drums, and it shouldn't automatically be considered the 'next step' for your rig.
If someone discovers that these events are NOT the case, please let me know!! I don't claim to know a lot about the TD-10 or TMC yet, but these are conflicts I am discovering as I go along.
Bermuda
[This message has been edited by bermuda (edited March 03, 2002).]
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