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  • Loud v-snare spot

    I've noticed when I hit my snare exactly in the center where a little dark circle in the mesh head is, it triggers a louder sound than anywhere else on the head. How do I fix this? Tape on it? Tightening the head more?

    Thanks

  • #2
    http://www.vdrums.com/discussion/For...ML/000014.html

    The search feature on this site works exceptionally well. Search for hot spot. This issue has been beat to death.

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    • #3
      Uh, thanks for the tip. After reading the thread and trying all the tips I still don't have a solution. Has anyone just said "screw it" and installed a different trigger or bought another snare? Silly to have to be forced to do that.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by animal:
        http://www.vdrums.com/discussion/For...ML/000014.html

        The search feature on this site works exceptionally well. Search for hot spot. This issue has been beat to death.
        You know (and this isn't a criticism of animal, I am guilty of it, too), the main criticism of vdrums.com over at ddrums.com, aside from the general disdane for the roland products, is that the only answers we give here are "use the search engine".

        Mods - can we please have a FAQ forum, where we can link to threads of common questions like this?

        Thanks!

        - Hans

        - Hans

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        • #5
          Hey Omegatopher donít hit the center... problem solved.

          Since you get that spike always, try to up the mask time to 12 and give it a try.

          One way to eliminate what you are experiencing is to cut down the input level of the snare(s) and boost the output. Further tweaking with in the module helps as well. Some snares seem to find the hot spot and some do much better. If you like the one you picked and it does find the hot spot, working within the modules edit perimeter (especially tuning it up and down, changing the head(s) and muffling Ė the key to good results is how you tweak many components in conjunction with each one; as well as in general) on the snare can help at times. If you donít have an outboard mixer (having one will help your issue, if you are set on a Roland snare) try to lower the internal mixers volume for selected snare(s) and up the fader.

          Having an outboard mixer will help you minimize/eliminate the hot spot. It will give you a lot of headroom to push the signal and add gain (a sizable chunk), EQ and panning, especially if you would run the snare to a separate channel on the mixer.


          For me, itís the double ply mesh head Acusnare from Hartdynamics Ė no hot spots!

          And the new line of Hart drums promise to eliminate the spike/hotspot issues further.


          Just food for thought and in essence, my .02 cents.

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          szvook
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          • #6
            In the "For what it's worth" department:

            With the PD-120, I've never really had this problem. I mean, with the smaller pads, I have, but with the PD-120, there is so much other space to hit the drum, I naturally tend to avoid the EXACT center anyway...one stick to either side of center is how I play A's as well.

            That being the case...I treat my playing style much the same as the A's, anyway...The center SHOULD be the loudest spot on the drum (except for when you whack the rim and the very edge of the head and take off peoples' heads nearby...I love doing that). I mean, I play the E's differently so that they will respond properly (avoid machine gunning, etc), but a lot of things that I've always done on A's (probably bad habits from self-teaching), apply to the E's as well.

            Not joking...don't hit the exact center.

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            • #7
              szvook and feefer have hit the best first line defense. Failing that, this is not bad advice either really.
              Originally posted by redbrick:
              Not joking...don't hit the exact center.
              Put a colored dot over the trigger position (glow in the dark for live play), and don't hit it.

              You should be able to all but eliminate it anyway, but if not, play B is a very economical and effective solution no sarcasm intended.

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              • #8
                Thanks. I hope I didn't sound like I was critcising Animal.

                I tried to scan time adjustment and the other tips listed in the thread. The only one I discovered sort of inadvertantly was a kit that had a lot of compression on the preset--which sort of squashes all level jumps. I ~could~ learn to not hit the center, but there will be other drummers playing on the kit--and paying me to do so--and I feel that's a bit much to ask of them.

                If I can't tweak it right with settings, the Acusnare might be worth the extra bucks just to be done with the problem.

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                • #9
                  Have you tried turning off the internal EQ and effects/ambiance...? I don't know...I am running out of ideas at this time... could be the alcohol.

                  Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

                  I go bye bye now

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                  szvook
                  Studio

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                  • #10
                    I ran into the problem while trying out a PD 120 at home, here's what I found. The legendary hot spot is kind of a myth, the sound you're hearing is the center sensor and the rim sensor firing simulaneously because you're sending a shockwave down the blue cone directly into the cross bar that the rim sensor is also attatched to. Lower the rim sensitivity to the point that it will only fire at the top of your playing dynamic on the rim, like a real snare drum. It fixed it for me, I hope it helps you.
                    Drumkat Turbo 4.5, Emulator X3, Superior 2.1, Roland Fantom XR, DTXtreme III, SPD-20 etc.......

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                    • #11
                      There is a kit in the TD10 exp called "realdeal" with a snare sound that is just killer when you hit the exact center of the pad. I love it. No Kidding! I aim for it.

                      Learn to master the hotspot, not fear it.

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                      • #12
                        I tried adjusting the rim sens. with mixed results at best.

                        In fact, that's all I seem to be getting with all the suggestions: mixed results.

                        I can't ask clients to "hit the hot spot".

                        Wonder what the official suggestion from Roland is? Probably "go to h_ell."


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                        • #13
                          Wheeeeeeeeeee

                          Iím back....

                          How heavy are your sticks? If it is a must for you to use the snare at this time especially if you are working with clientele, try to use lighter sticks and maybe raise the sensitivity to compensate (if needed/desired). Or lower your sensitivity if using heavier sticks.


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                          szvook
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