"buzz" from Roland heads

[bpaluzzi]

Hello all-

Haven't been around for a while, but stopping in to ask a question.

Recently picked up a DTXtreme, and I'm switching all of the heads to the Roland mesh. I'm also using some acoustic drums, putting the Roland heads + ddrum triggers on them, to have a more "visual" set when needed.

On the acoustic drums (not the baffled DTXtreme pads), I'm noticing a definite, loud, annoying "buzz" sound on the heads. Almost like the two plys aren't seated properly, and they're vibrating against each other. It happened with several different 12" heads.

Has anyone else had this problem? Any solutions?

Thanks for your help.

Brandon

[dr. kildrum]

I haven't had that problem (even when I used Roland heads). Nevertheless, Remo makes a product called muffl'rs that I suspect will eliminate that.

[mcconaghy]

Originally posted by bpaluzzi:
Hello all-

Haven't been around for a while, but stopping in to ask a question.

Recently picked up a DTXtreme, and I'm switching all of the heads to the Roland mesh. I'm also using some acoustic drums, putting the Roland heads + ddrum triggers on them, to have a more "visual" set when needed.

On the acoustic drums (not the baffled DTXtreme pads), I'm noticing a definite, loud, annoying "buzz" sound on the heads. Almost like the two plys aren't seated properly, and they're vibrating against each other. It happened with several different 12" heads.

Has anyone else had this problem? Any solutions?

Thanks for your help.

Brandon

Worker at Remo alseep on the job? Sounds like you got some lemons.
I haven't experienced this problem with Roland mesh heads before, neither have I heard of it before. You said you noticed this on the acoustics, have you tried the mesh heads on the DTXtreme pads? If you haven't, check it out, and see if the buzzing persists. If yes, you've got a batch of bad heads. In that case maybe you should give the Hart Kontrol Screens or the Triggerhead mesh heads a try.

Stu

[gingerbaker]

Wasn't there a post recently about Remo V-drum mesh heads having a higher rim height than usual heads, which might cause seating problems with nonRemo rims?

[dr. kildrum]

Yep. That was me. I found that it wasn't actually height technically speaking though. The Roland heads don't have this "height" when new, but once stretched over a drum, the edges are pulled down quite a bit for just nominal drum tension. Later, if the head is removed, it retains the resulting shape, causing the flat playing surface to reside about 1/2 inch or more above the rim with a downturned edge. In other words, the heads start out just about like all other heads of the same sizing.

Be that as it may, heads that are thicker or stronger (of exactly the same size) do not stretch as easily. Specifically Hart. The end result is that those heads, in order for the rims on your Vdrums not to end up way above the drum heads, have to be tightened quite a lot. The double-ply requires even more as you would expect. Many complain that they don't want the heads very tight as a preference, so, while less pliable heads can be used, they will likely have to be extremely tight, in order to put the rims at a similar height above the head as with a Roland head (or at a reasonable height for that matter).

The opposite is true of the Triggerheads. They are very stretchy, and the rims might actually sit lower if tension is pushed any. Some stretchy heads can fail quite easily as well under stress.