TD-10 upgrade question

[Omegatopher]

Hey all,

I just got the TD-10 and the new expansion chip at the SAME TIME and it says that I will "Lose ALL DATA" when I install the new chip. Question: Will I lose all the original preset drumkits OR do they mean only all the data that was saved before (which was none) ????



Thanks,

CJM

[Marc.]

Yes. All data will be replaced with new data. Save before the install.

Note: Most of the original presets are in the new data.

[Drummersdad]

Marc - Save his data to where? Are you saying that he should buy a memory card??

Omeg -You won't lose anything if you haven't made custom kits or sequences. Someone suggested trying out the original 50 kits before installing the card - just so you will have an idea of any you will want to copy over later. Not a bad idea. But you really lose nothing by just installing the car - since all original 50 kits remain deeper down in the system. Upgrade away and look for the several prior posts on how to copy kits from the original 50 to your current kits, since the manual is hopeless. I copied "Natural" from the original 50 and that is about it. BTW, make sure you select Trigger Bank 2 after installing the TDW-1 if you have V-cymbals.

[Drummersdad]

Omeg - to make things easier - when you are ready to resurrect one of the original 50 kits - read this thread http://www.vdrums.com/discussion/For...ML/000722.html

Basically you dial in a current kit you don't like (I chose kit 10). Then Press "Tools", then "F1" and roll your wheel counterclockwise quite a ways till you reach the original TD-10 kits in the upper line of the display. Pick one of them and press "F4". Then press Exit. You can always resurrect the "lost" TDW-1 kit by following the above and just rolling the wheel counterclockwise to the name of the original TDW1 kit on the upper line. You can then start learning to get fancy and changing the kit destination line on the bottom and really swapping things around. Also, be sure to get a copy of Lee's VKit software for the Expanded TD-10 so you can save kits to your computer. It is not yet posted on this board, so you would need to e-mail Lee. Good luck. Howard

[Marc.]

Originally posted by Drummersdad:
Marc - Save his data to where? Are you saying that he should buy a memory card??

Yes, a memory card could be used. He can also save it to a computer.

[Drummersdad]

Originally posted by Marc.:
Yes, a memory card could be used. He can also save it to a computer.

Marc my friend,
Why bother saving anything if he hasn't made anything to save!? When looking back in prior posts on this subject (can I just install the card in a fresh TD-10, etc) there seems to ALWAYS be a message from you in each of the threads that suggest that people worry about losing some special data from the TD-10 (unfortunately, just like the manual does). Please explain - just what are they losing on an "out of the box" TD-10?? If I'm the one who is mistaken, please explain so I don't spread misinformation. I'm still learning...Thanks. Howard

[Steve Gardner]

You lose absolutely NOTHING on a fresh out of the box TD10.Only if you have customized kits do you lose anything.

[Marc.]

Originally posted by Drummersdad:
... - just what are they losing on an "out of the box" TD-10?

Hi Howard,

I do not have the time to search the forums right now, but I do recall 3 or 4 kits and some patterns being replaced with new data. However, it appears to me that these presets were deemed expendable by Roland and should not cause you or anyone a big deal.

I do not recall posting anything where I encourage people to worry. You're thinking of someone else, putt perhaps? He's great for that stuff.

[Drummersdad]

What, me worry? (Alfred E. Newman)

I didn't mean worry. I sort of meant "hesitate"

[Arriguy]

It's just those kits named KitCopy 1,2,3,etc that are replaced. I wouldn't (didn't) worry about saving them.

[Boingo]

Originally posted by Marc.:
... but I do recall 3 or 4 kits and some patterns being replaced with new data. However, it appears to me that these presets were deemed expendable by Roland and should not cause you or anyone a big deal.

Kits 46 thru 50 on the orig. TD-10 weren't really new kits. They were for the user to customize and were named KitCopy1 thru KitCopy5. So the TD-10 only had 45 original kits and the TDW-1 gave you 55 additional kits.

[Omegatopher]

Thanks all for your help.



I'll go ahead and install it without worrying.