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    why does the higher end Vpro come with a lower end kick trigger(KD7) than the Vcustom which has the KD120?

    what up wit that?

    Is there a big difference in practice volume between the two?

    ::T:A:K::

  • #2
    Uhhh...??

    The Vcustom is the td-8 module with the 8-inch drumpads and bass similar bass drumpad. Initially Roland offered the KD-7 kick trigger for the Pro series, later the mesh headed pad was introduced. However at one of the two new kits (forgot whether it's the red one or blue one) the KD-7 is offered again.

    You can always buy the pad you like.

    In general rubber pads are a bit more noisy than mesh headed pads
    Robert

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    • #3
      I think what putt was trying to say is that the Customs come with a KD80, not a KD120. The Pros have the K3 though. The K3 is easier to transport but noisier, whereas the KDs have a slightly better feel IMO.

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      • #4
        Pintech makes the "k3". Roland makes the KD-7.

        just picking nits.

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        • #5
          I think the KD7 gives the people downstairs more noise, since the beater is slamming against the floor all the time.
          Music was my first love...

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          • #6
            WHoops! Right, KD-7, not K3. I'm kinda confused because I just picked up a K3 and all of those Ks are running through my head... $$^)

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            • #7
              Just picked up a V-Custom set. Comes w/ the K-80 upright style kick pad. Had a TD5 trap kit prior to that which included 2 KD-7's. I really liked the reverse beater feel (not to mention their tiny footprint). Have yet to open my KD-80 wondering if I should trade/sell it for a couple of KD-7's. Any thoughts out there? So is there a clear winner in the reverse vs vertical beater debate? Interesting how Roland offers both the KD-7 and KD-80/120 in their high-end V-Pro sets. Wonder why they haven't standarized on one over the other?


              [This message has been edited by stikkman (edited June 27, 2001).]

              [This message has been edited by stikkman (edited June 27, 2001).]
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              • #8
                Any more talk on KD-7's and Lee will make a show! This topic was discussed at length here: http://www.vdrums.com/discussion/For...ML/000071.html
                Steve

                'I only ever quote myself - except when I quote someone else' - me

                , plenty of , and , , triggered acoustics, , and a plethora of PA blah blah freakin blah...I mean does anyone care about the specifics of pedals, speakers, processors, hardware or anything that I'm using?? :confused: Hmmm, maybe this is an appropriate place to mention that I tried out a new cymbal stand the other day...

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                • #9
                  Personally I think all Pre-KD120 Vpro owners should have received an upgrade from the kd7 at a considerable savings. But that's just me.......

                  Jeff

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                  • #10
                    Ahemm. Let Lee interject if he must, but I got my cake and edith too. I had a brief moment of fame when I showed my now famous V-Cup invention but what seemed to slip by you's guys was my Upright KD-7. While the pic wasn't taken to highlight it, it is somewhat visible. It's been working fine for a little over a year now. I just took some plywood, alum bar and jig plate from the scrap heap at work and spent a couple bucks on some angle brackets and screws. It's anchored with sheet rock screws, and doesn't move.

                    My guess is it's rated not quite as good as a KD upright but lots better than a KD-7. I'm surprised more of you haven't gone this route.

                    Kit Pic 1 Kit Pic 2 Kit Pic 3... And FOR SALE I have: 3 PD-9's, MDS-10 purple rack w/cables/pad and cym mounts. See classified posts for details or PM me.

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                    • #11
                      Boingo, your V-inventions truly are taking the V-community by V-storm!
                      People will look back upon your life in years to come and reflect upon how you single handedly turned the musical world around!
                      I will be able to say to my grandkids 'I used to hang with Boingo at Vdrums.com'!


                      On a more serious note though, how does the upright KD-7 feel compared with the inverted (or as Lee would call it - perverted) version? Is it just as solid? Obviously it must be better for you to have gone to all that effort! Don't just let your fame stop with a little pic! Bask in your glory, tell us everything!
                      Steve

                      'I only ever quote myself - except when I quote someone else' - me

                      , plenty of , and , , triggered acoustics, , and a plethora of PA blah blah freakin blah...I mean does anyone care about the specifics of pedals, speakers, processors, hardware or anything that I'm using?? :confused: Hmmm, maybe this is an appropriate place to mention that I tried out a new cymbal stand the other day...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Steveo the Devo:
                        Any more talk on KD-7's and Lee will make a show! This topic was discussed at length here: http://www.vdrums.com/discussion/For...ML/000071.html
                        Current: TD-30, TD-12 modules/TD-20 pads
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                        • #13
                          Thanks for the great link to the discussion debates on the KD7 vs KD-80/120 topic, SteveO. Guess I'll break out my KD-80 tonight and give it a whirl. I too experienced intermittencies w/ one on my KD-7's shortly after the first year of ownership but was able to resolve the problem by simply replacing the cheap, plastic cable Roland originally provided.

                          thanks again
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                          • #14
                            Just out of curiosity, why set up the KD-7 this way?

                            I think the KD-7 works very well for what I'm doing. Most of what I do on drums focuses on double-kick, and I think the KD-7s are great.

                            I like the KD-7, but I guess my question is why do people NOT like it?

                            Do you guys just not like the way it LOOKS?
                            Is that why everyone is so against the KD-7s?
                            Did you make it NOT inverted, just so it would look more "acoustic?"

                            I'll be honest, I've tried both the KD120s and the KD80s, and I don't like the way either of them feel, especially the 120s. Those things bounce all over the place and I found them harder to control with a double-kick pedal.

                            I think out of those three (haven't tried any others except the yamahas, which are awful), the KDs feel most like my acoustic kit. It's just a "thud" feeling, then it stops moving. the other two bounce back at me, which reduces the ammount of control I have while playing double bass at fast speeds.

                            Anyone have any thoughts?

                            Lee?



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                            • #15
                              Only one Hart. I had a few drummers in our studio recently, who play the vdrums with KD120s and the KD80s for a kick and they said the same thing; way too much bounce. Then they set on my Hart system and all agreed that the kick was as close to an acoustic that you can get especially on the double kicks.

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