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  • #16
    Marc if I could I'd explain all, but it's too complicated.

    If you'd play a 10 year old hardcore house track, some people would call it techno now. Some music that used to be considered as techno is called hardcore. Commercial garbage is called trance, trance is called techno...

    sjeesh it's so confusing!
    Music was my first love...


    • #17
      I think music is all subjective, and Techno is no different. You either get it or you don't.
      I'm not sure someone could describe any kind of music effectively.

      The ALL YOUR BASE thing is a funny thing that some kids made, I thought you might find it funny, that's the only reason I posted it. For every 5 people who laugh hysterically, there's one who doesn't get it, so I guess humor is just as subbjective as music.

      I wasn't posting it for the music. The music, like the rest of it, is a joke. I guess it's techno, but don't judge techno by this. This would be an example of really, really bad techno.

      I think as it has grown, techno has become a generic term for electronic music, which has been broken down into several other categories - electronica, trance, dub, house, stuff like that. Some of it I like, but a lot of it is redundant and lame.

      I tend to like heavier techno stuff, borderline industrial, something with an edge and some structure.

      Marc.- if you're interested in doing a Napster search, I like stuff like

      Never gonna come back down
      Lords of Acid:
      Special Moments
      Voodoo u
      young boys
      Noise Unit:
      The Drain
      Crystal Method:
      trip like I do
      High Roller

      There's others, but that's a few that I think are cool. Check them out if you feel inclined.

      I'm glad you guys are having fun with the post...



      [This message has been edited by BINARY (edited April 15, 2001).]


      • #18
        Originally posted by BINARY:

        I'm glad you guys are having fun with the post...



        [This message has been edited by BINARY (edited April 15, 2001).]

        What Happen!!

        C'mon Binary, You Know What You Doing! For Great Justice, Take Off Every Zig!

        BTW, this 'All Your Base' stuff originated in 1989 with a cheesy-ass japanese anime video game called 'Zero Wing'. Gamers found the dialogue so ridiculously funny that they went nuts with making their own 'AYB' pictures one by one. Only later did someone take the time to string them all together and put it's techno music to it!

        History of 'All Your Base'

        Here's the sequence of events:

        1989: Zero Wing's english version is released in Europe.
        Mid 1998: A different version of the Zero Wing .gif is posted on the now-defunct Rage Games quote page. When the site morphs into Whazzat!, the .gif is replaced by text.
        Late 1998/Early 1999: The current Zero Wing animated .GIF is posted on Zany Video Game Quotes, submitted by Seymont. It begins slowly circulating the internet.
        Fall 1998: Zero Wing (the arcade version) is first emulated. The arcade version is missing the intro, but the ending has a similar translation.
        March 13, 2000: Toaplan.com opens. The site contains info about Zero Wing and other Toaplan games.
        June 5, 2000: The Zero Wing Dub Project is posted at OverClocked.
        July 31, 2000: The Mistranslated Ship Captain becomes a guru at the True Meaning of Life. His first post is here.
        Summer 2000: The forums at Something Awful start to get infected. The .gif is in at least one person's signature. It gets posted with some regularity in various threads. A few people link back to the dub.
        Fall 2000: According to one visitor, AYBABTU was appearing on Stile Project as the title & in images. This was reportedly a result of Jeff K.'s hack of the site - Stile liked it and kept it a while.
        September 6, 2000: On the SA forums, a gimmick poster called Alf posts a picture of Alf on the phone. Starscream adds a speech bubble saying "All your base are belong to us." It's a hit, and gets posted a few more times. Here's a copy of the picture.
        October 12, 2000: AYBABTU begins appearing on the relic.com forums.
        November 6 - 21, 2000: The Something Awful era, and the origin of the photoshopping
        A thread is posted - The title is "ALL YUOR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!!" (yes, it was spelled "YUOR"), and the only message is "ON THE TABLE!!" By the end of the first page, the photoshopping had begun.
        The first image, a skeleton from Army of Darkness, was done by Starscream (again!). A copy of the first page of the thread may be found here. Thanks to clockworkjoe of the SA forums, who saved the first (and most important) page!
        As further evidence, this thread linked back to the SA one.
        Around page 10, word begins to spread. HardOCP is one of the first to link back to it.
        Some of the pictures are incredible works of Photoshopping (like the Times Square pic done by The Yellow Yell).
        Some sites, like Planet Namek, temporarily add AYBABTU to their pages. PN had it in their title tag for a couple of weeks.
        The first(?) two stores open, here and here.
        The forums collapse in on themselves. Suddenly, the last couple of pages of the thread disappear.
        A short time after, somebody using a hacked moderator account deletes the first page of the thread. This basicially kills the thread, since it no longer appears in the listings.
        Finagler's archive of the early parts of the thread remains.
        People who had been exposed to the phenomeon (mostly 3D game fans) take it back to their own boards, and similar threads (often using the same pictures) are started.
        November (?) 14, 2000: JRR, one of the SA forum regulars, releases Invasion of the Gabber Robots, the Zero Wing remix. NOTE: I'm not 100% sure of the month - the thread is still archived, but the forum doesn't show months. It was most likely either November or December.
        November 28, 2000: A report/poll on the US elections appears on Ars Techinca: All Your Votes Are Belong to Us!! Check the archive page here.
        December 16, 2000: Tribal War's thread begins. As this is one of the oldest remaining threads, they are often mistakenly given credit for starting the phenomeon.
        January 12, 2001: Part 4 of "A Winner Is You," Hubert's game quote-based storyline is posted. It passes completely beneath the pop culture radar.
        January 14, 2001: Solidsharkey.com puts up a history. It's not as complete as this one, and may have some inaccuracies (WAS the Genesis version of ZW ever a US release? I can only find the info/ROM for a European version), but it is the first attempt at documenting ZW history. Note that I didn't find out about this until 10 minutes ago.
        February 11, 2001: Eskimo Bob posts Episode 12: AD 2101
        February 13, 2001: memepool.com posts about AYBABTU. They link to the Tribal War thread.
        February 15, 2001: Bad_CRC of Tribal War releases the now-infamous music video. There are some copyright issues (permission wasn't asked to use JRR's song), but it continues to spread like wildfire.
        February 16, 2001:
        Plastic reports the Flash video. Read the story and see comments here.
        Online comic EverCrest has an AYBABTU in this strip.
        February 18, 2001:
        Salamando's Stove posts an article called The Death of Zerowing, about the phrase's overuse. Seems it still has some life left in it, though...
        On a lighter note, web comic Avalon's guest strip features the Zero Wing dialog.
        February 19, 2001:
        GameFaqs posts a FAQ for Zero Wing (authored by Frank Provo), which includes a better translation taken from the Japanese version.
        id Software releases an add-on level pack for Quake 3: Team Arena. Here's a shot of a hidden message.
        February 20, 2001:
        The San Francisco Chronicle (both print & web versions) runs a story about AYBABTU.
        OverClocked returns with a Zero Wing based comic.
        Around this time, "All Your Base Are Belong to Us" was accepted into Eijiro's database (I'm told it's the world's biggest online English-Japanese dictionary - the FAQ is here, but I can't read a word of it). It'll be added next update, which should be April or May sometime.
        February 21, 2001:
        Salon.com runs this story (scroll down a bit), about the US Army's use of the phrase, as well as a brief expanantion.
        Online comic Real Life has a (subtle) AYBABTU in this strip.
        Somebody chalks All Your Base Are Belong to Us on the roof of Wean Hall at Carnegie Mellon University. Photo 1 - Photo 2 - Photo 3
        February 22, 2001:
        The Register runs a story about AYBABTU.
        So does Newsbytes (a mention of the Flash movie, they seem to think the author did all the art). Story is here and here.
        Steve Jackson Games makes an AYBABTU related post and image, check here.
        February 23, 2001:
        AYBABTU is heard on Loveline, thanks to ShAyTaNa of the HardOCP forums. Part 1 (390k): The Prank. Part 2 (365k): The Explanation. Part 3 (167k): The Followup. MP3's converted & donated by Darren.
        TechTV runs a story. They do provide a link back to SA, which is a nice change.
        Wired also runs a story.
        Kringlenet runs a story, too.
        And one more blurb at Netsurfer Digest.
        Those getting sick of the whole thing may be interested in this rant at seethru.co.uk.
        CATS and the now familiar phrase are seen in the background of this User Friendly strip.
        Gamespy.com posts this Dork Tower strip.
        Another strip, College Roomies from Hell!!! has a modified AYBABTU on a newspaper in this strip.
        Yet another one - Toonbots begins their AYBABTU ref.
        Segfault.org posts this amusing correction.
        Another one at Steve Jackson Games - Due to a miscommunication, the poll for Pyramid Magazine is replaced with an AYBABTU one.
        February 24, 2001: Online comic Doctor Fun changes their logo to a CATS/AYBABTU one. The pic is mirrored here, just in case it gets changed.
        February 26, 2001:
        Time Magazine had a small article about it (Issue dated March 5). Scanned version here (scan by GODHED). Online version here. JRR finally gets credit!
        As several people have informed me, the cancelled Fox TV show Freaky Links has had it's page replaced with AYBABTU.
        Sluggy Freelance features Somebody Set Up Us the Bomb and AYBABTU in the background of this strip.
        MyDivX.com posts an interesting image in one of their updates.
        MP3.com pulls Invasion of the Gabber Robots from TLMOM's site. They claim copyright violations, as the song uses Zero Wing samples. They don't seem to realize that Toaplan has been bankrupt and gone for 6 years. The SA thread where this is brought up is located here.
        AYBABTU-related posters were put up at Harvard - more information & photos can be found here and here.
        February 27, 2001:
        "All Your Base Are Belong to Us" makes its debut at #46 on the Lycos 50.
        Angelfire posts this page, which is where the Lycos 50 entry links.
        Invasion of the Gabber Robots is put back on MP3.com after they recieve numerous complaints about it's removal, and realize that Toaplan no longer exists.
        Finagler's archive is updated. The pics are now at full size, and the animated .gifs are included. There do still seem to be some missing, though.
        Neopets introduces a new shopkeeper - a cat-like CATS. Currently on the New Features page is a picture, captioned "All your Neopet are belong to us!"
        AYBABTU in real life - some guys put up a banner on a bridge in Australia.
        Another one - "All Your Base Are Belong to Us" was written in chalk all around the Georgia Tech campus.
        Another AYBABTU comic - check out this guest strip at PDI.
        February 28, 2001:
        The Lycos 50's article is up.
        Another User Friendly cartoon includes AYBABTU.
        The Guardian runs a story. Hmm... Mention of the Alf picture, DrEldarion's store, and credit to SomethingAwful - wonder if they've been here...
        March 1, 2001:
        The Detroit Free Press ran a story. It seems they forgot to give credit to JRR/TLMOM for the song (seemingly giving it to PlanetStarsiege) - anybody want to set them straight?
        NetSlaves posts a story.
        AYBABTU in this Soap on a Rope comic.
        Another AYBABTU in real life. At the University of Pennsylvania, pictures of their president Judy Rodin begin appearing. They have a speech bubble that says "All your base are belong to us."
        March 2, 2001:
        Somebody hacked Dutch Railways - All Your Trains are Belong to Us! Here's the report, and here's another.
        Online comic Wendy gets in the now-obligatory Zero Wing joke in this installment of CUTEWendy.
        On the Ethermoon Entertainment forums, an employee posts a shot of the editing software for their upcoming game, Strifeshadow. See March 8 for the followup...
        March 3, 2001:
        The Daily Mirror runs a full-page story about AYBABTU, including a link to this web site!
        The Disco Scottie Show played Invasion of the Gabber Robots during the show - coming back from every break, as a matter of fact.
        The website for upcoming game Doom 3 launches - check the hidden text (Select all, try dragging underneath the logo, or view the source). I'm not sure of the date - IE properties said March 3, so that's what I'm using. If anybody knows otherwise, let me know.
        March 4, 2001:
        CATS-Mania infects HP: Check out the monitor on this page.
        TechTV airs part of the flash.
        The Osdorp Posse's home page is hacked to include "What You Say?" in the main image map.
        The Dutch postcode lookup website was altered - ALL YOUR POSTCODE ARE BELONG TO US!! It's back to normal now.
        All Your Base with lasers at the Harshman dorm at Bowling Green State Univ in Ohio - Check it out here.
        AYBABTU is painted on Coolidge Bridge in Northampton, Mass. Photo 1 - Photo 2
        On national television, someone in the crowd of the MU vs KU men's basketball game held up a sign that read "All your base are belong to us." Anybody have a screen capture?
        March 5, 2001:
        A story appeared in the Ottawa Citizen's techweekly section.
        Rare's web page is now showing some Zero Wing influence - hover your cursor over the title & Conker images.
        The Dutch website about the Euro was hacked to include "All you euro's are belong to us :-) who's next..." It's also back to normal now.
        WebWereld posts a story about the Dutch hacks.
        Some stories on World Online about the hacks and the phenomenon - The stories aren't dated, so I'm linking them here. The Phenomenon - All Your Trains - All Your Postcode - All Your Euros - Another Postcode one
        The Four Toon Tellers begin running a new banner ad.
        TheForce.net posts a story - Guess what's in it...
        This kind of defies description. Check the reader comments at the end.
        This arrangement of rocks was discovered at the University of California, San Diego campus. Thanks to Bernard for the picture!
        March 6, 2001:
        MP3.com's e-mail newsletter prominently features The Laziest Men on Mars and the AYBABTU video.
        mpXreview.com posts an article about the phenomeon.
        HugeDisk gives AYBABTU a passing mention.
        Computer gaming website Blue's News changes their tagline to "All your news are belong to us!"
        March 7, 2001:
        USA Today runs an article.
        "All Your Base Are Belong to Us" moves up 10 places to #36 on the Lycos 50.
        The Internet TOURBUS runs a story about the AYB "conspiracy." Not to mention changing their front page a bit...
        TheTripleHelix.com posts a short blurb - it also makes it into their poll (check the previous poll archive).
        The author of Schlock Mercenary declared he won't have AYBABTU in his strip. Ah, well - somebody had to.
        The Parking Lot is Full's author posts this... novelization? of the Zero Wing Intro. Kids - don't click those links. Rated M for Mature.
        Fourth and Inches, a comic in the Notre Dame newspaper the Observer, features an AYBABTU. I'll add a link once the page is working - it's down at the moment.
        Newgrounds sets up a page dedicated to AYB. One mistake I can see - they say that Eskimo Bob is parodying the original flash - Eskimo Bob was released a few days eariler.
        March 8, 2001:
        From a reader: "In a limited run of 200 from Steve Jackson Games, the now famous line appears prominantly in bold at the bottom of the instruction sheet of a new game called Frag."
        Jiminy Critic, a movie review site, reviews the Flash.
        Audiogalaxy runs a story on Japanese Pop called "All Your Base Are Belong to Us"
        AYB sighted on the official Tomb Raider Movie web site - click on the "Image of the Week" link.
        As a result of the Ethermoon forum posting on March 2, a fan creates this Java game - watch the intro. The first AYB in a game (besides Zero Wing, of course)? Possibly.
        March 9, 2001:
        AYB on TV again - Fox News runs a story. Online version here.
        Check out this screenshot from Acclaim Sports' All Star Baseball 2002 - Looks like it's a fake shot. We'll have to see when it's released...
        Doomworld has a new pic of the day - CATS as the Doom 2 end boss.
        March 10, 2001:
        ESPN.com mentiones AYB in a humor story.
        Reports indicate that somebody is posting AYBABTU stickers in Toronto.
        March 11, 2001:
        On TV again - Fox 4in Dallas, TX did a story.
        So did Fox in Chicago - and it was recorded! Check out the movie here (capture by Marcus)
        VH1 has decided to jump on the bandwagon - check the title.
        The Dutch National Radio played Invasion of the Gabber Robots on the program "Cyber Top 50."
        All Your Base are Belong to Scooby Doo on When I Grow Up.
        An interesting story goes up on Celebrity Goo Game.
        On the official Star Wars web page, hover your mouse over this image.
        March 12, 2001:
        AYB appears in this installment of nationally syndicated comic strip Fox Trot.
        AYB also makes an appearance on Steve Wozniak's page.
        Also in this story on the Cheadle Labour Party's site.
        March 15, 2001: An article appears in the LA Times.
        March 21, 2001: AYBABTU on the front page of the Onion. Archived here. I got this story from a TON of people, but the first was Gabe Jones.
        "All Your Base" is pronounced dead several times every day, yet it's 15 minutes of fame continue for some reason...

        HA HA HA HA.... You are on the Way to Destruction!

        What you say!!
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        • #19
          Originally posted by BINARY:
          Marc.- if you're interested in doing a Napster search, I like stuff like ...
          Thnx for the recommendations Mark, I'll check them out.



          • #20


            • #21
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