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  • Does anyone actually use an electronic drum sound?

    Like an old Simmons or Techstar module?
    Or are you looking for the most accurate acoustic simulation?
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    I would like to, but find the TD-10s electronic sounds disappointing. I like the Peart Techstar sound, but my favourite has to be Roger Rizitelli's tom sounds on Jean Michelle Jarres "Concerts in China". Beautiful rich but dry "thwomps".

    Funnily enough I've got a load of Simmons modules in my loft somewhere, an SDS-5, MTX-9 and few expansions. Not to mention an enormous kit of hex pads. Maybe I should get them out and see if they fire up....

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    • #3
      Strange enough you brought this up. I'm about to try to start getting into the old modules and pads myself. I actually have a Simmons kit comming UPS as we speak and am going to check out a Techstar I came across on the net (at a pawn shop across town no less) this weekend. Might be a phase I'm going through, but I suddenly want to search out this stuff. Very affordable.

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      • #4
        Hey moderators...hows about a "Vintage Edrums" section??

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        • #5
          Originally posted by BtnkBndt:
          Strange enough you brought this up. I'm about to try to start getting into the old modules and pads myself. I actually have a Simmons kit comming UPS as we speak and am going to check out a Techstar I came across on the net (at a pawn shop across town no less) this weekend. Might be a phase I'm going through, but I suddenly want to search out this stuff. Very affordable.

          I have a Tama Techstar 306 module. I got it with my Techstar pads. It's 6 channels- 4 toms, one synth sound, and one hand clap sound. It needs some work internally; I think using channel 1 causes the brain to short out temporarily.

          I'm looking to sell it for cheap to someone that might know how to fix it up.

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          • #6
            I have been using my Simmons SDS-7 for about 6 years now and I found that is the best and easy way to get the analog electronic sound that can expanded as only analog can. The digital filtration from the SDS-7 adds another factor the sound and in conjunction with the TD-8 the library of sounds is perfect. In some cases as you know the analog modules can act up time to time, but I have yet to experience any set backs from the SDS-7 even with playing live a lot it never wigged out on me, knock on wood! Without going to a sampler, I found the Simmons to be the next best thing maybe even better for the authenticity of the sounds. Hope this might help.



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            • #7
              Does anyone actually use an electronic drum sound?

              No, some drum modules already sound synthetic enough
              Robert

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              • #8
                I've always had a thing for stuff from the land that midi forgot. I had an old Yamaha PTX8 and Roland DDR30, I loved them both.
                Drumkat Turbo 4.5, Emulator X3, Superior 2.1, Roland Fantom XR, DTXtreme III, SPD-20 etc.......

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cgrieves:
                  I like the Peart Techstar sound, but my favourite has to be Roger Rizitelli's tom sounds on Jean Michelle Jarres "Concerts in China". Beautiful rich but dry "thwomps".

                  Since we're getting nostalgic here, I thought I might add a few cool songs from "back in the day" featuring those *****in' Simmons sounds:

                  "Red Lenses" and "Red Sector A"-Rush
                  "Seven Wishes"-Night Ranger
                  "Why Me?"-Planet P
                  "Things Can Only Get Better"-Howard Jones
                  "Send Me An Angel"-Real Life
                  "Take Me Away"-Blue Oyster Cult
                  "The Confessor"-Joe Walsh

                  Anyone else out there care to add to the list? I'd be interested to hear what some of your guys' favorites are....

                  Old Simmons sounds rule!!

                  TD-30 / SPD-SX

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                  • #10
                    Man, you guys are great!

                    Its good to see people still appreciate and realize how effective the original edrums module/brains and pads are, especially even more that before!

                    Has anyone heard of Front242 or Front Line Assembly or Consolidated or I Ďam sure - Ministry, even early music by NIN used the old analog/digital (SDS-7 in my case) brains/modules.

                    I started playing drums in the early 80's. Industrial music - especially Ministry with influences by Terry Bozzio and Neil Peart (although Rush was not Industrial by far nor was Missing Persons; but Neil is Neil - the professor and I loved Bozzio technique as well) style of music was my choice (the techno/electronica stuff was not played in the US at the time, only rarely on the pirate radio or in some record stores that were surprised how the tapes or records got there in the first place and were happy that some actually wanted them).

                    If you have access to an old set of edrums, try them out, you will not be disappointed.

                    I also had great success with using Hartdynamics Acoupads to trigger the SDS-7, the old Simmons pads do not give as much as the new pads do and if you play live and use the older modules on a regular basis, you might want to consider saving your elbows and wrists, I know I do.

                    I run my SDS-7 dry, each active output from the Simmons into my VLZ without any effects, tone exciters or compression, just the EQ from my VLZ per channel. The Simmons does not need much outboard processing, itís very dynamic, some times too dynamic - if you want to push it, and it will rip your head off. The possibilities are fruitful if handled right.

                    Enjoy,


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                    • #11
                      Yeah, Bozzio. I thought the stuff he did with electronics on Missing Persons' "Rhyme and Reason" album was pretty groovy. Check out the fills during the last part of "Give"---badass.
                      TD-30 / SPD-SX

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                      • #12
                        Exactly !!!

                        Originally posted by Mick Wade:
                        Yeah, Bozzio. I thought the stuff he did with electronics on Missing Persons' "Rhyme and Reason" album was pretty groovy. Check out the fills during the last part of "Give"---badass.


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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mick Wade:
                          Anyone else out there care to add to the list? I'd be interested to hear what some of your guys' favorites are....
                          Naked Eyes' "Always Something There to Remind Me", always sticks in my mind...there's a Simmons-y tom pattern prominently featured over the chorus

                          Also, several eighties-era Genesis tunes; 'Invisible Touch', 'Land of Confusion'(during the bridge), some others...though these did not tend to be their best songs.

                          I also vaguely remember a Slade tune that became a minor hit called "Run Runaway" which sounded like it used electronic drums.

                          Szvook, I also used to listen to Ministry, Front 242, etc. There's a long track on 'Twitch' (or two combined tracks?), one called "Isle of Man" which for me was the Holy Grail of electronic/industrial percussion...ever listen to Test Dept. and Einsterzende Neubauten?(more along the metal-machine percussion than Simmons-ish electronic, but something that was very influenced my own [electronic] drumming).

                          DJourg

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                          • #14
                            There's also that song that's been in my head, you know the chorus: "she's a maniac, maniac on the floor..."

                            whatever the name of that tune was. I love the drum sound in that song, heh heh

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                            My drums, y'all...
                            "Get out there and rock...
                            and roll the bones...
                            GET BUSY!"
                            substrike.com for a better tomorrow - today!
                            My Drums
                            Tama Rockstar Acoustics, Zildjian and Wuhan Cymbals, Roland SPD-20, Roland PM-16, Akai S2000 w/Iomega 250 SCSI Zip, 2 Pintech Silentech Pads (one single zone, one dual zone), Kat F.A.T. Pedal, Pintech K3, Simmons pads.

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                            • #15
                              Okay, DJourg, I have to ask you this for no other good reason than I'm curious in the most trivial sort of way:

                              I assume that "Jourg" is short for Jourgensen, and I noticed that you mentioned Ministry in your post. Al Jourgensen is, of course, Ministry's frontman. And (please correct me if I'm wrong) I believe they also hail from Chicago. Is there any connection at all here or am I just going "postal"? .....
                              TD-30 / SPD-SX

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