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  • Drumming injury Plantar fasciitis anyone had this ???

    G'day I have been practicing a lot and Just started developing this heel injury on my right foot/ heel, from the kick pedal I think.
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    I usually play heel up with both feet and only rest heels when not playing.
    When I only had a single kick I played heel down and only played heel up for faster beats, all the double kick playing I do is heel up.
    I am an older player and never had anything like this from playing before, so not real sure where to go from here.

    if Anyone has any tips where I am going wrong technique wise? recovery etc I would be grateful.
    I searched around and there didn't seem to be anything drumming related, just thought I would try here. Cheers
    Last edited by sycle1; 06-10-19, 06:33 AM.
    NOW with New Improved TD-30 Module, some V drums an other music making thingies with miscellaneous small furry animals, large hairy animals, motorcycle bits and a big muff:rolleyes:.

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    I've not had this issue. I too am older and just started ramping up my practice session, which can be 3-4-hours in length. I do take breaks every 30-45-mins for about 5-minutes (mostly mental breaks due to concentration issues) however, I do make sure to do some stretching because my current routine is so "foot" focused.

    Are you slamming your foot/feet down on the pedals? I mostly play heel up (train the right to play with a bit more power heel down, while trying to get more heel up out of the left) and I maintain contact with the pedal mostly on ball of my foot and the driving action comes primarily from ankle action, not just dropping my thigh on the pedal (I think this is the slamming I referenced in the question above).
    Hardware: TD20SX --> Roland UA-25EX --> MSI GT780DX w/ i7 2670, 16-GB of Ram, Windows 7
    Software: Superior Drummer 2.0, Metal Foundry SDX, Metal Machine EZX, Toontrack Solo - - Sonor X1 Studio - -

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    • #3
      For plantar fasciitis, try doing stretches in the morning and evening for your calf. Ive had it a few times in my life from sports and such and it can become chronic if you don't rest for a bit and do the proper stretches. It's weird that you'd get it from drumming, though, since you don't put a ton of pressure on the plantar fascia while drumming.

      You can look online for appropriate stretches. Would be easier than me describing them to you.

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      • #4
        Maybe your condition was not caused from playing drums, even though it is causing pain when you play. Your technique might be fine and something else caused your condition. I hope you can figure it out.
        I played heal up until I had my hip replacement in November. I am now starting to play heal up again and itís taking some time to get my strength back in those muscles.
        Good luck!
        Equipment: TD-30KV, DW9000 hardware, ROC-N-SOC Throne, Behringer ULTRATONE K3000FX Amp, JBL EON 615 Powered Speaker, Yamaha MG06X. 1965 Ludwig Super Classic. Black diamond pearl. Zildjian K Custom Dark cymbals, DW 7000 hardware, DW 9000 kick pedal.

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        • #5
          Well thanks to HOPPY, I managed to work out what has happened.
          I used a different pair of shoes for a few weeks and they had a higher heel (Old pair of Dress shoes) and the soles were quite slippery too causing me to keep pushing my feet forward to keep the balls of my feet on the pedal plate sweet spot.
          Because of the higher heel I didn't realize that I was slamming my heel into the heel of the shoe with every beat of the pedal, thus causing the bruise.
          With flat shoes this doesn't happen.
          I have been playing since 6 years old and now am 58 and never had that injury before.
          Hence me asking the question.
          I have learned the hard way, flat shoes only on the kit or bare feet.
          Thanks for all the comments and suggestions.
          Arnica cream for the bruise and a bit of rest, hopefully I will be back going rat a tat tatt in no time etc.
          NOW with New Improved TD-30 Module, some V drums an other music making thingies with miscellaneous small furry animals, large hairy animals, motorcycle bits and a big muff:rolleyes:.

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          • #6
            Thatís great news, glad you figured it out.
            Equipment: TD-30KV, DW9000 hardware, ROC-N-SOC Throne, Behringer ULTRATONE K3000FX Amp, JBL EON 615 Powered Speaker, Yamaha MG06X. 1965 Ludwig Super Classic. Black diamond pearl. Zildjian K Custom Dark cymbals, DW 7000 hardware, DW 9000 kick pedal.

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            • #7
              ^^^ Ditto... glad you figured it out, 'cause we always love a good ending here on the forum!
              Hardware: TD20SX --> Roland UA-25EX --> MSI GT780DX w/ i7 2670, 16-GB of Ram, Windows 7
              Software: Superior Drummer 2.0, Metal Foundry SDX, Metal Machine EZX, Toontrack Solo - - Sonor X1 Studio - -

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              • #8
                Yes just gotta give it a rest and heal now.
                NOW with New Improved TD-30 Module, some V drums an other music making thingies with miscellaneous small furry animals, large hairy animals, motorcycle bits and a big muff:rolleyes:.

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                • #9
                  Its good to know of peoples drumming problems and there solutions. I am 70 and every time I play I seem to get another pain somewhere or other. Sometimes its still there the following day but mostly its something else. Just got to keep going. Every day a challenge if you know what I mean.

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                  • #10
                    3 months later and I am still struggling with this injury.
                    Not as quick to heal as I thought.
                    NOW with New Improved TD-30 Module, some V drums an other music making thingies with miscellaneous small furry animals, large hairy animals, motorcycle bits and a big muff:rolleyes:.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sycle1 View Post
                      3 months later and I am still struggling with this injury.
                      Not as quick to heal as I thought.
                      I highly recommend giving KT tape a try. It really helped me when I had plantar fasciitis. I taped my foot up exactly like demonstrated in the linked video. https://www.kttape.com/how-to-apply-...tar-fasciitis/

                      Hope this helps.
                      ATV aDrums, TD-50, aD5, Superior Drummer 3.0, Roland SPD-SX, Tama & DW Hardware.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by sycle1 View Post
                        3 months later and I am still struggling with this injury. Not as quick to heal as I thought.
                        Sorry to hear that.
                        Just to add on to Chances27's comment... Also there is a lot of info on same basic therapy/prevention available online via Mayo Clinic, WebMD, and the like.

                        Getting older doesn't help our healing ability unfortunately... Took months for me to get over a nagging shoulder muscle issue I developed when I first started to learn how to play open-handed. I hadn't fully committed to it and didn't ergonomically adjust my equipment, still relying on the right-hand set up height/position and I strained one of the little muscles/tendons that help rotate your arm outward. I would never had guessed such a little thing could actually be a big thing!
                        Last edited by Hoppy; 09-01-19, 01:01 PM.
                        Hardware: TD20SX --> Roland UA-25EX --> MSI GT780DX w/ i7 2670, 16-GB of Ram, Windows 7
                        Software: Superior Drummer 2.0, Metal Foundry SDX, Metal Machine EZX, Toontrack Solo - - Sonor X1 Studio - -

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sycle1 View Post
                          3 months later and I am still struggling with this injury.
                          Not as quick to heal as I thought.
                          Hi, I work as a medical provider in Family Medicine and Urgent Care clinics.

                          I wouldn't say that it's necessarily from your drumming. Plantar fasciitis is just super common, more so in my experience around 35-45 years old. It can be aggravated by activity (most often running, and possibly in your case drumming), so you'll see it in younger athletes and military recruits, for example, but in many adults I think it's just kind of wear and tear, like tennis elbow.

                          The underlying issue is a tight and shortened plantar fascia, which you can think of as a sheet of connective tissue underlying the sole of your foot, attached at the heel. Because of lost compliance, this tissue exerts additional tension at the attachment point, which results in fraying, inflammation, and pain. Eventually additional bone deposition at stressed sites could result in heel spurs.

                          You've probably noticed that the worst pain seems to be during those first few steps out of bed, or when standing up after prolonged sitting. If you think about it, this makes sense: in the relaxed state, the fascia tends to contract, and it takes time to sort of warm it up and stretch it out.

                          When I've dealt with this personally, what worked for me was to massage & stretch the site several times daily with a lacrosse ball (you want something firm but with very slight give, a racquetball would probably be okay too). Anyway, I kept the ball underneath my desk at home and just rolled it around underneath my foot whenever I was online or whatever. Some people like icing, and some people combine icing with massage by freezing a partially full plastic water bottle and using that to roll with. You can also try heel cup inserts for extra cushioning and try to avoid going barefoot on hard floors.

                          It can be a frustratingly persistent condition, usually lasting months rather than days or weeks. But in most people, it seems to resolve eventually.

                          Anyway, good luck!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MJB View Post
                            ... When I've dealt with this personally, what worked for me was to massage & stretch the site several times daily with a lacrosse ball (you want something firm but with very slight give, a racquetball would probably be okay too). Anyway, I kept the ball underneath my desk at home and just rolled it around underneath my foot whenever I was online or whatever. Some people like icing, and some people combine icing with massage by freezing a partially full plastic water bottle and using that to roll with. You can also try heel cup inserts for extra cushioning and try to avoid going barefoot on hard floors...
                            That ball idea is such a great tip... I was given a ball for the foot massage thing, to help with ergo issues (long hours @ computer workstation) at my former work place.
                            Funny thing is that the ball is sitting at my home desk as I type this out and forgot all about it and that it is a pretty useful tool!
                            Hardware: TD20SX --> Roland UA-25EX --> MSI GT780DX w/ i7 2670, 16-GB of Ram, Windows 7
                            Software: Superior Drummer 2.0, Metal Foundry SDX, Metal Machine EZX, Toontrack Solo - - Sonor X1 Studio - -

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                            • #15
                              My brother had this when he was still playing for our high school basketball team. I'm not really familiar with how people get it and how to treat it but I've certainly heard about it.

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