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I'm a drummer now. a really BAD drummer, but still

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  • I'm a drummer now. a really BAD drummer, but still

    Figured I'd stop saying "I'm not really a drummer" in every post.

    I sat down and went

    boom boom boom boom

    on the kick.

    Then ticka-ticka-ticka-ticka on the high hat.

    Then I did both of those at once. Wow!

    Then I went

    (rest)-whack-(rest)-whack on the snare.

    Holy smokes I can now lay down a groove suitable for 80% of rock songs.

    Then I tried to do something else and it all fell apart. But hey ya gotta start somewhere and I've been doing it for 5 or 10 minutes a day for several days in a row.

    It's not very easy. Not sure about all the drummer jokes out there. Probably just jealousy.

  • #2
    Keep at it. It can only get better. Nothing like drums for pure physical energy. Great stress buster too.
    Roland TD30 module on TD20 kit SD3 with various kits. Pearl Masters Kit, Yamaha 9000RC original natural wood finish. Cymbals from Zildgian Pasite and Sabian. Loads of percussion bits. Cubase and Wavelab always current versions.

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    • #3
      Hang in there, keep at it, don't get frustrated at the plateaus, set realistic expectations & goals, and never forget to have fun!
      Hardware: TD20SX --> Roland UA-25EX --> MSI GT780DX w/ i7 2670, 16-GB of Ram, Windows 7
      Software: Superior Drummer 2.0, Metal Foundry SDX, Metal Machine EZX, Toontrack Solo - - Sonor X1 Studio - -

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      • #4
        I played for about 15 minutes over a 6/8 guitar loop I'd recorded. Fun! I think I can finally get some drum parts that match the guitar grooves this way. Impossible or at least very difficult using loops or standard MIDI beats. I also have a much better intuitive sense of where to put fills playing along with the tune even if they are really simple at the moment.

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        • #5
          Keep it up. Contrary to public (and bass playerís) belief, drummers can count beyond 4. Stay in the pocket and donít worry about fancy fills. Fills can be as simple as a cymbal hit. Have fun!
          Equipment: TD-30KV, DW9000 hardware, ROC-N-SOC Throne, Behringer ULTRATONE K3000FX Amp, JBL EON 615 Powered Speaker, Yamaha MG06X. 1965 Ludwig Super Classic. Black diamond pearl. Zildjian K Custom Dark cymbals, DW 7000 hardware, DW 9000 kick pedal.

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          • #6
            This experience is really eye opening for me. I wasn't really even planning on starting to try to play the drums, but:

            a) I had an old Ion kit laying around, which in spite of being non-MIDI, works OK. Then I got a used DDTI trigger interface and it actually works OK with those pads! I upgraded to a dual-zone Alesis mesh snare and getting a real kick trigger rather than the cheap switch footpedal that came with the Ion. I got 4 more pads for about $10 each and next I am probably going to make some DIY cymbal triggers. Hi-hat will be last, but honestly the current arrangement gives me open, closed, and pedal close so it's actually OK for the time being. Total investment so far is about $400 but I think I'm a step up from a low end Alesis kit. My biggest complaints are 1) kick pedal keeps slipping away 2) using a hard rubber pad for hi hat makes your hand hurt after awhile - I can see the need for something with more "give".

            b) I have tunes I've written on guitar and no end of frustration (years and years) trying to get suitable drum parts installed on those (since I always start with guitar, that's where the "feel" originates)

            c) I realize that simple drum parts are totally acceptable

            d) I'd rather spend an hour playing something in than 15 minutes trying to mouse it in or edit MIDI or use a drum machine or audition 10,000,000 loops. Whoever thought 5,000 canned rhythm loops was a great thing must never have tried to actually use them.
            Last edited by Digital Larry; 04-27-19, 08:59 AM.

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            • #7
              We were all bad drummers once mate. You just have to keep plugging away at it and you never stop learning. If you do its probably because they are burying you. Also, and just my opinion, your not a drummer till you can cut it full time in a band. Other than that, you just play drums.

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              • #8
                I am bad too. But I can Play a Hand ful of Songs and I love doing that.

                Only matters if you like doing it, and like the process of getting better. If you`re doing it simply to get to a certain Point, you will, most likely, never arrive. Gotta love the journey, then the worst Thing that happen is you had a good time.
                ATV HiHat, Yamaha Cymbals, DW PDP Drumset with Jobeky Triggers, and drumtec Pro Snare.
                Audiofront eDrumIn Modules. Triggering EZD2, SD3 and SSD5.

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                • #9
                  Taking even one drum lesson is a good idea.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Howstamychi View Post
                    Taking even one drum lesson is a good idea.
                    Plus one on taking lessons. It is a rewarding experience for me. I donít know how to interpret good bad or great. Iíll never be great but Iíll always keep trying.
                    As long as youíre enjoying playing, keep doing it.
                    Equipment: TD-30KV, DW9000 hardware, ROC-N-SOC Throne, Behringer ULTRATONE K3000FX Amp, JBL EON 615 Powered Speaker, Yamaha MG06X. 1965 Ludwig Super Classic. Black diamond pearl. Zildjian K Custom Dark cymbals, DW 7000 hardware, DW 9000 kick pedal.

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                    • #11
                      You don't need to be great to enjoy playing drums but being good helps.

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                      • #12
                        Appreciate this won't be of interest to experienced drummers but I have just completed 5 weeks of self teaching on my basic TD1 DMK kit (with KT10 kick as I'm on a first floor). I use a few different online resources including Melodics etc. and also watch a variety of you tube lesson videos. A couple of points maybe worth mentioning for other beginners- I have to constantly remind myself to hold my sticks properly- initially I was quite lazy without realising it and found my little finger and sometimes my ring finger were 'naturally' letting go - this felt more intuitive for me and allowed me to play faster- but with less control. I am now forcing myself to play slower- my left, weaker hand feels pretty ropey compared to my right so I am doing extra exercises to try and bring my weaker hand up to speed. I also struggled through some sessions for no apparent reason- then realised that my drum throne had lowered itself by about 5 cm without me realising- this made a big difference to my playing. In 5 weeks my progress has been satisfying- I hadn't realised I had progressed so much until I went back to my very basic, early lessons and realised my timing is much better and I feel more relaxed playing them- on occasions things just come together and basics like 8th note high hats just happen without too much thought and this allows me to enjoy my snare and kick notes. It was a fantastic feeling to play 32 bars of basic rock beat without a mistake- (at least I scored 100% on Melodics). I have replicated this for a number of lessons and have found myself chuckling and smiling as I play along- what a great feeling! I have now got onto 'fills'- I am finding this tricky and challenging. More to the point my transitions are really bad and my speed through a fill is limited by my weaker hand and this causes me to play late notes. I'm also slow getting around the toms. I have read that fills/transitions are usually challenging for beginners so will just keep practicing and building up my weaker hand. It's obviously early days but I'm really enjoying my drumming time and think I may be hooked! Thanks to all the experienced drummers on hear that post so much interesting stuff.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ocean Rover View Post
                          ...I have now got onto 'fills'- I am finding this tricky and challenging. More to the point my transitions are really bad and my speed through a fill is limited by my weaker hand and this causes me to play late notes. I'm also slow getting around the toms. I have read that fills/transitions are usually challenging for beginners so will just keep practicing and building up my weaker hand. It's obviously early days but I'm really enjoying my drumming time and think I may be hooked! Thanks to all the experienced drummers on hear that post so much interesting stuff.
                          Practice with a metronome and perform any fill or rudiment or groove correctly and consistently at a slow BPM before slowly increasing BPM. This will develop "muscle memory" for that riff that will improve over time. If you do this for even 10 minutes a day on any rudiment, fill, fly between drums, etc. you WILL improve. It just takes a little discipline. Then reward yourself by playing along with some of your favorite songs.
                          ATV aDrums Artist expanded kit, Mimic Pro. Ludwig 1967 black oyster pearl five piece, Zildjian A custom crashes, A. Zildjian ride and hats.

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                          • #14
                            ...thanks for sharing... my situation is more or less the same...

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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE= I have now got onto 'fills'- I am finding this tricky and challenging. More to the point my transitions are really bad and my speed through a fill is limited by my weaker hand and this causes me to play late notes. I'm also slow getting around the toms. I have read that fills/transitions are usually challenging for beginners so will just keep practicing and building up my weaker hand. It's obviously early days but I'm really enjoying my drumming time and think I may be hooked! Thanks to all the experienced drummers on hear that post so much interesting stuff. [/QUOTE]

                              Are you keeping your kick pedal going through the fill. This is important, it helps you keep the timing. Also coming out of the fill needs to be smooth and not alter the timing at all.

                              There was a thread here not so long ago about exercises to strengthen the left hand. See if you can find that.

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