My new video with old fashioned HiHat and Cymabl techniques...enjoy
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Butter That Bread
I thought I'd demonstrate some hihat and cymbal techniques from long ago. Buttering the Bread, spacing out backbeat snare beats and disco offbeats to help pl...Don't even tell me us old farts still don't have something to say and learn! Just give me some ghost notes and I'll Purdie your brains out!:cool:
Playin' for over 50 years (21 years 5 & 6 nights a week) and still lovin' every minute of it!!! TD-12 noob and growing!:pTags: None
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I find myself doing this sometimes if I'm really in the groove! I have no technique at all either... I'm a guitarist after all!TD9-KX2, VEX Masters 50, Toolbox, Naturals & Acustix. Many many Guitars, Bass Guitars & Mics, and a very understanding Wife!
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Oh yeah baby, bustin out with the old school, keep it coming!!
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This is my favorite thing ever.
Buttering the bread... hmmm BUT I found it's a thing better left to A-hats, why? The rubber on e-hats grip the sticks just enough to bother me during the sideways motion.
Raising the stick on the off beat though, I can't NOT do that, it's instinctive.
I can't remember which lesson I was watching online, but an important thing I took onboard was "always looking for rest time" and by that, I don't mean; going for a beer between songs.
I mean it's - buttering the bread. Half a second where your muscles can relax, or to put it another way, 75% of the effort for the same beat.
One thing you didn't cover though; to me, the most important of all:
That's half a second gained where you can be... the flamboyant drummer! Forget the technicalities, raise your whole arm in the air on that offbeat! Let the crowd know your awesome!◾ Diamond Drums 4pc in Di-Noc carbon ◾ MegaDRUM
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You can't make a fat bald old guy look flamboyant no matter how high I raise the stick! lolLast edited by Carminemw; 02-27-15, 01:03 PM.Don't even tell me us old farts still don't have something to say and learn! Just give me some ghost notes and I'll Purdie your brains out!:cool:
Playin' for over 50 years (21 years 5 & 6 nights a week) and still lovin' every minute of it!!! TD-12 noob and growing!:p
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Very cool and informative as always thanks Carmine.
Flamboyant, Whats that LOL!NOW with New Improved TD-30 Module, some V drums an other music making thingies with miscellaneous small furry animals, large hairy animals, motorcycle bits and a big muff:rolleyes:.
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Originally posted by sycle1 View PostVery cool and informative as always thanks Carmine.
Flamboyant, Whats that LOL!
I had never heard of a flam before starting drumming.
but now have been brought up to speed.
I have read (double check anything I say, in case this isn't right), that flamboyant is playing 2 single strokes with alternating hands.....well, here, I'll quote the wiki: "flam A flam consists of two single strokes played by alternating hands (RL or LR). The first stroke is a quieter grace note followed by a louder primary stroke on the opposite hand. The two notes are played almost simultaneously, and are intended to sound like a single, broader note.[5] The temporal distance between the grace note and the primary note can vary depending on the style and context of the piece being played."
now, the tricky part is that you must do it in a bouyant manner.
I usually accomplish this by pretending that I'm on a boat, sailing along, entertaining my beautiful supermodel girlfriend with my chops, especially my expert flam work.Last edited by chasmanian; 02-28-15, 01:17 PM.
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LOL!!! Chasmanian
I did some buttering on the hats on the weekend with the band got a great swing happening thanks Carmine.
Guitarist said he had an old girlfriend that was "butter"
he said everything about her was perfect, butt er face BADA BING BADA BANG!!!NOW with New Improved TD-30 Module, some V drums an other music making thingies with miscellaneous small furry animals, large hairy animals, motorcycle bits and a big muff:rolleyes:.
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too funny dude. you rock.
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watched a lesson last night with Ed Shaughnessy and Clem DeRosa.
they were talking about the 4 T's and listening.
absolutely phenomenal teaching, man.Last edited by chasmanian; 03-02-15, 09:26 PM.
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Originally posted by Kabonfaiba View PostThis is my favorite thing ever.
Buttering the bread... hmmm BUT I found it's a thing better left to A-hats, why? The rubber on e-hats grip the sticks just enough to bother me during the sideways motion.
It is a fun thing to do, but for me, best when playing acoustic HH, not my e-HH.DTX700, eDRUMin 4+10, A2E Dixon kit, Yamaha cymbals, FSR HH
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I do it on both...it's hard on thr cy5, but it makes me snap my wrist back faster!Don't even tell me us old farts still don't have something to say and learn! Just give me some ghost notes and I'll Purdie your brains out!:cool:
Playin' for over 50 years (21 years 5 & 6 nights a week) and still lovin' every minute of it!!! TD-12 noob and growing!:p
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I tried this some years ago, after watching Ringo, I thought it was so cool, but very difficult to do on my CY-5. I still do it occasionally on the VH11's but not live, I can't hold a tight groove lol. Once I've done built an A2E hat I'll get back on it! :-)2Box Drumit5, DIY 12" Snare, 12" Floor Tom, 2x10" Toms. Acoustic cymbals w/DIY triggers, Triggera Krigg, Tama Iron Cobra Kick and Tama Roadpro HH stand. Tennis Ball Riser (not needed now I have the Krigg lol).
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