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    My new Gen16s....

    Well after much deliberation trying to determine if I wanted to DIY cymbals, I got a good deal form my buddies drum shop. Got the 18 ride, 16 crash, and 14 hats, all without the pickups and module. Pretty sweet for quieter playing. I must admit surprised .

    Now it's time for JMan triggers...
    Yamaha Absolute Birch;Yamaha Oak Custom
    Paiste Cymbals; Zildjian Hybrid Cymbals
    DIY vdrums
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  • #2
    Did you get the new bronze or the nickel ones

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    • #3
      Cool...remember that once you apply the triggers(which work great BTW) that you will no longer have the pleasing acoustic overtones any longer. It will be more of a "tonk or clink" sound. Not really annoying or anything...but definitely not musical either.
      8 piece DIY Acrylic, 2x2Box DrumIt5, Gen16 4xDCP, DIY Acrylic&Gen16 Conversions, Sleishman Twin-QuadSteele hybrid, Gibraltar&DrumFrame rack, DW9502LB, Midi Knights Pro Lighting
      http://www.airbrushartists.org/DreamscapeAirbrushRealm

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      • #4
        Hemiboy got the nickel mainly because they were the special pricing. Also after listening to the YouTube demo of both I kind of liked the brighter sound. DANIEL, jman doesn't require to mute the cymbal with tape does he? Is that what I are referring too?
        Yamaha Absolute Birch;Yamaha Oak Custom
        Paiste Cymbals; Zildjian Hybrid Cymbals
        DIY vdrums

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        • #5
          No pvc ... or very little to control the vibrations for accurrate triggering from my experience. That said... as soon as you bolt the assembly on the cymbal... it alters the tone.
          8 piece DIY Acrylic, 2x2Box DrumIt5, Gen16 4xDCP, DIY Acrylic&Gen16 Conversions, Sleishman Twin-QuadSteele hybrid, Gibraltar&DrumFrame rack, DW9502LB, Midi Knights Pro Lighting
          http://www.airbrushartists.org/DreamscapeAirbrushRealm

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          • #6
            Originally posted by fulrmr(Daniel) View Post
            No pvc ... or very little to control the vibrations for accurate triggering from my experience. That said... as soon as you bolt the assembly on the cymbal... it alters the tone.
            oh of course, makes sense. Can trigger box be removed easily enough to switch for that ultimate experience??

            thankx for info.
            Last edited by ronyd; 06-03-14, 03:02 PM.
            Yamaha Absolute Birch;Yamaha Oak Custom
            Paiste Cymbals; Zildjian Hybrid Cymbals
            DIY vdrums

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            • #7
              Have you tried the direct source pickups? I really don't understand why you'd want to put a trigger on Gen 16's. Seems like you can use lots of normal e-cymbals if you're just looking to trigger the sounds.
              TD50 Digital Pack, TD30 and TD9 Modules, custom made pads, Gen16 crashes, and hats plus a few other things that I'm not sure what to do with or why they're still in my kit. Bands: Espada http://www.musicaespada.com/ and JamCo https://www.facebook.com/JamcoEntertainment, https://www.jamcoband.com/

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              • #8
                Sorry for the double post, this is the glitchiest site I've ever seen. Takes forever to load pages, crashes half the time, etc. If not for my love of the site, I'd stop posting here, it's too much effort!
                TD50 Digital Pack, TD30 and TD9 Modules, custom made pads, Gen16 crashes, and hats plus a few other things that I'm not sure what to do with or why they're still in my kit. Bands: Espada http://www.musicaespada.com/ and JamCo https://www.facebook.com/JamcoEntertainment, https://www.jamcoband.com/

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BWaj View Post
                  Have you tried the direct source pickups? I really don't understand why you'd want to put a trigger on Gen 16's. Seems like you can use lots of normal e-cymbals if you're just looking to trigger the sounds.
                  I have both basically because I'm not fond of the Gen16 crashes and the rides can be tiresome to find a happy medium between bell and bow tones that suit me. Besides that....most of the cymbal samples out there are spectacular. Sooo...it's just one more tool with different options that matches the rest of my Gen 16s. I haven't tried the new Buffed Bronze presets on my Nickels yet though. I hear they make a large difference for warmer tones. Oh...and yes...I have all DS pickups...never liked the mic pickups at all.
                  8 piece DIY Acrylic, 2x2Box DrumIt5, Gen16 4xDCP, DIY Acrylic&Gen16 Conversions, Sleishman Twin-QuadSteele hybrid, Gibraltar&DrumFrame rack, DW9502LB, Midi Knights Pro Lighting
                  http://www.airbrushartists.org/DreamscapeAirbrushRealm

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                  • BWaj
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                    BWaj commented
                    06-04-14, 08:22 AM
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                    I did not like the mic pick ups either. Agreed on the sampled sounds being great, I just think it messes with the feel of the Gen when you slap a trigger on it. I hit pretty hard too and they are not as durable as an e cymbal, so it the intent is to trigger, I would go with something other than a Gen 16.

                    Funny, I've got the crashes sounding awesome (for my ear) and love the hats, agreed on the ride. I have a Roland rubber cymbal pad on top that I use just for the bell strikes and use the gen only for the main ride. If Zildjian keeps perfecting the Gen's though, I think they can have something really special in a few years.

                    Have you ever messed with triggering a normal acoustic cymbal? Just wonder how that would feel verse an e cym? I imagine you could deaden it enough that volume would not be an issue, but it would probably kill the feel. Thoughts?
                  • fulrmr(Daniel)
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                    fulrmr(Daniel) commented
                    06-04-14, 01:32 PM
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                    Yeah...I have a full set of Sabian B8's in a box somewhere that have triggers on them that I preferred over rubber cymbals..and yes the dampening material(clear PVC)does detract from the "traditional" feel...but the triggered Gen16s feel much more natural because of the lack of PVC dampening material that needs to be used. The holes in the Gen16s have the unique characteristic of taking care of most of the dampening needed for optimal triggering without the need for added material. YMMV however. The trigger over the ride for the bell tones is a great idea...may just have to build something for that purpose.
                • #10
                  Originally posted by BWaj View Post
                  Have you tried the direct source pickups? I really don't understand why you'd want to put a trigger on Gen 16's. Seems like you can use lots of normal e-cymbals if you're just looking to trigger the sounds.
                  BWaj, direct source pickups are not triggers, and you would need the sound module. If I use triggers, I can use as inputs to my Roland TD-10. Otherwise, I''d have to run yet another amplifier of the Sound module I guess.

                  Much easier also since I can run the Midi out from the Roland to computer to get other sounds from software like Adrenaline, or EZDrummer2, etc.
                  Yamaha Absolute Birch;Yamaha Oak Custom
                  Paiste Cymbals; Zildjian Hybrid Cymbals
                  DIY vdrums

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