Where are all the td11kv 's

[dusty605]

Almost everything I read seems to be about a td 30, 20 or 9, with the odd 15 thrown in. Am I missing something? I bought one just over a year ago thinking it was my most affordable option for something that has all mesh heads and the ability to manage small gigs when the time comes with a pretty decent module. That being the case I'm surprised there aren't more out there. Or are there?

[EssKayKay]

+1 for my TD-11KV -- although I have had a bit of GAS (added a crash and replaced the PDX-6's with PDX-8 and PDX-100).

[dusty605]

I've done the same with mine, pdx 100 snare and vh11 hi hat, currently using the old cy5 as a second crash. Next step for me is another pdx100 for Tom 3 then move that pdx 8 up to Tom 2. How do you find the kit and what do you use it for, practice only or gigging too?

[EssKayKay]

I use my TD-11 simply for fun/me in my basement - no gigging, no band mates, no audience.

[gradier]

Yes, EssKayKay, I use mine in much the same way. Except that I started with a TD-11ks and then upgraded the pads: PD-105 for snare, two PDX-8's for rack toms (one of these is my original TD-11ks snare), two PDX-100 for floor toms (split with drumsplitter), CY-13 for ride, and my original TDks CY-8 ride has become a crash (out of AUX). so, it's an upgraded TD-11ks totalling $2000 in outlay. I don't really know if I come out ahead or not, but I have the set-up I want. The trouble with low-mid-range anything (cars, computers etc.) is that these companies know how to build GAS into the product: the consumer then thinks 'it's not perfect but I can spend more to get closer to what I want.' I say: either (1) buy the top-level with all the bells and whistles and forget about it or (2) buy in the lower end of the mid-range and upgrade so it ends up better than mid-range. what do you think?

[dusty605]

I think the buy in the middle and upgrade option works well for me, it makes the initial outlay more realistic and then you can add to it as you see fit with whatever you want and when you can afford it. People with the high end kits are still looking to add and change bits too. Do you find the pdx 105 works better as a snare than the 100? Also with the splitter on the floor toms, does that just give you 2 toms with the same sound or can you designate a different sound with each one?

[EssKayKay]

Yes, with the drumsplitter you can set the extra pad as another tom with separate settings or as some other percussion instrument. The only thing is the pad that you "split" only has one trigger (i.e., you only have the head, no rim).

[seasack]

+1 - with upgraded pads and toms - and VSTi exclusively.

[dusty605]

I need me a drum splitter then, is there a specific one I need to look out for, bearing in mind it needs to be available in the UK?

[EssKayKay]

Here's the link. I believe there is a surcharge for international shipping but it should work fine. Contact them by email with specific questions - they are very helpful.

http://www.drumsplitters.com/

[dusty605]

Ok thanks, will have a look

[dusty605]

Which splitter did you get, I'm assuming the male one with 2 female ends, what cables did you use to connect the drums to the splitter if that is the case?

[gradier]

Actually, all female ends. So, you connect the female single end to a cable coming out of the module (you can use AUX too). And then connect two pads with two regular male/male ends into the two female ends of the drumsplitter. I am using it to create tom 3 and 4 (different sounds, usually called 'tom 3' and 'tom 4' in the listing of pad sounds). The crash cymbal is then connected out of the AUX on the module, giving me a kit with 6 drums and 4 cymbals.

[gradier]

I think the buy in the middle and upgrade option works well for me, it makes the initial outlay more realistic and then you can add to it as you see fit with whatever you want and when you can afford it. People with the high end kits are still looking to add and change bits too. Do you find the pdx 105 works better as a snare than the 100? Also with the splitter on the floor toms, does that just give you 2 toms with the same sound or can you designate a different sound with each one?

I find the 105 is about perfect for me, bearing in mind that the TD-11 is not a big kit (the MDS-4V rack being the limiting factor). So, yes, I like the 105 as snare (no plastic rim like you get on the PDX-8. That being said, I like the two PDX-8s as rack toms. (Obviously I moved the PDX-8 from snare to tom. And I bought a new demo PDX-8 for $100 from my local music store.) I think there is only room on the top of the rack, realistically for PDX-8s or PD-85s, but two PD-85s would cost me over $500, whereas using my old snare and buying the demo one cost only $100). Putting PDX-100s in that position would be a really tight fit, not ideal. See photo:

[EssKayKay]

Dusty,

You'll want a Female -> Female/Female splitter (for the TD-11)

Then you will need two 1/4-inch Male-Male "mono" (TS) patch cables to go from the splitter to the two pads. I used ones with straight plug on one end and right angle plug on the other -- the right angle plugs work better connecting to the pads. Depending on how your kit is setup and which pads you want to split, three foot long cables should work fine. (I made mine - I had a 6' mono cable I cut in two and added the plugs).

Depending on how you setup your kit, you may need an extension cable (male-female) to reach all the pads. Again, depending on which pads are the furthest from the module, the extension cable may need to be stereo (TRS) if it is for a pad with head and rim active.

This sounds a lot more complicated than it is. Any questions, maybe I can help.

SKK