Acoustic drum sounds

[hemiboy]

If you had to load your module with only one brands's drum sounds, what brand would it be? The only acoustic drum I have ever owned is Ludwig and they are so old I am looking at all these acoustic drums that are out now and they are all so beautiful and I have no idea what they play like I am pretty sure that he 60's Ludwigs like mine are 3 ply mahogany shells and I have no idea the difference in the sounds between mahogany and the maples, birches , oaks, beech, etc that are out there todayi. I can honestly say though that the stock ludwig kits on my 2 box and the bfd 3 ludwig kits sound just like my ludwig kit , very realistic!

[DrumDependent]

If i would have to narrow the scope down to one model from one brand it definetly would be the Recording Custom series from Yamaha.
It's nice that the guys from BFD allready sampled those drums and that i own a 2box myself. Once i own the BFD3 with the samples i'll prolly load them over to my module.

[daebado]

Pearl Reference Kit! Love that sound!!

[hemiboy]

What DW and Gretsch models would be comparable to the pearl reference model? And do any or the ones I have mentioned have different woods mixed or dedicated to individual drums like the Pearl

[hemiboy]

Sorry hot spot double triggered, I mean double posted

[daebado]

Yeah, HM, it would be the Masterworks series. Sorry, missed that little tidbit!
As far as comparable kits, Hemi, I can't answer that one. Once you get into the top o the line for just about anyone they are all good. It's just a matter of what YOU like from that point on. I'd say it would be tough to make a bad choice. Tama's newest top o the line stuff has me very interested as well, though I can't talk to their construction without getting on their website and looking it up.

[hairmetal-81]

I like the 'attack' of a good acrylic shell, so I'd pick Kirchhoff or Wahan!

[TheYardbird]

I would load it with the sounds of a Yamaha PHX kit, just because it's so expensive.

[tivi]

wonder if any of these kits in the new VEX pack for TD-30?

[Kabonfaiba]

Easy decision for me; Tama Starclassic.

[hemiboy]

What woods are in the stsr classic, and are you playing that kit. If so, how does it differ in sound from other kits And how is the quality Of the finish are hardware?

[billgtx]

Concur with the Starclassic. Used to own them in birch and just sounded fantastic.

[Kabonfaiba]

Oh there's no chance of me playing that kit lol, but apparently it's a Starclassic Maple - my favourite drummer uses it with a 6.5"x14" Bell Brass Snare Drum (PL565)
It definitely would be my only acoustic kit that I would considering buying ...if I had the money (and no space/noise limits)

I've listened to many great sounding drumkits (as we all have), but if I were judging only for the raw live sound, it will always be the Starclassic for me. It just stands out to my ears as 1 level better, any live could benefit from it imo; I know drummers themselves contribute enormously to the sound as well, but the toms have a thunderous snap to them, a thump from the sub-bass 64hz kick, which remains clean and never becomes muddy, especially on fast doubles. The bell brass snare cuts through even the heaviest of heavy metal, and goes nuts when doubled up with a kick. lt can be played quietly, although that chime of the brass will never be tamed at any volume, so any mistakes will be heard, and also because of that, it has somewhat narrow playing dynamics of medium to very loud, (no ballads lol) but up to 11 if needs be, which not all drum kits can do just by hitting it with more force.

[hemiboy]

At the risk of asking a silly question( note that I am acting like this will be the only foolish thing in my life) does the size, shell, and wood type really have any effect on the sounds of your acoustic shells when they are being generated from a drum module instead of the natural sound of the drums?

[Tommy_D]

I think if I really had to choose, it would probably be Yamaha drums. I dont own any of their drums, but they have Recording Customs (Birch), Maple Custom/Absolute, Beech Absolute, Rock Tour (Big Leaf Mahogany), Absolute Hybrids (Maple/Wenge), Oak/Live Customs, PHX Series (hybrid shells), etc, etc, etc. They just have a huge variety of different drums with all sorts of different construction and wood specie choices. I think Yamaha would give you the greatest range of sound out of the big companies.

Sadly, you would think this would be a good reason to switch to a DTX module, but I just don't think Yamaha has put forth enough development in to their electronic kits as they have their acoustic kits to get my money.

[hemiboy]

Tommy are you playing just your recent a to e conversion or do you still have an acoustic or a couple of acoustic kits?

[Tommy_D]

I have my A2E kit in my basement, my big Tama acoustic is in the basement of my brother's house, and I just bought a Ddrum Reflex Uptown 6 piece acoustic today. It should get to my place in the next week or so.

[hemiboy]

What is your a to e kit td 30 with what kind of shells and cymbals

[hemiboy]

Nice, because I am 60 and didn't play drums since I wAs 16 except for a half a dozen times, I am not that familiar with d drum, but I am going to look that kit up now . All I ever played was my Ludwigs which I am playing now converted and that was it!

[Tommy_D]

My A2E is a Gretsch Catalina Maple 7 piece. It's not a great quality kit, but it looks pretty and it was inexpensive. I think it works well for an A2E conversion. The Ddrum kit isnt a top end kit by and means, but again the Uptown is a very pretty looking kit and its made of Alder. They are the only company who makes an Alder kit, so I thought I would give it a try. Fortunately, its not very expensive. Ddrum gets a bad rep, but I like what I see from them. They try some different things. Everyone makes a birch or maple kit, but alder or walnut are a bit more unique

[hemiboy]

Just checked out your ddrum kit and I like it As usual, some guys were a little negative on it like you said, but to me it looks like a lot of kit for them money and it's got a good stage presence, It remind be of when I first went in the car business and was looking at a used car or truck, and I would call my uncle up and ask him or others what they thought about the car or the price. After I became a little more experienced, he would finally say , hey kid it's your money and you're looking at it . What do you think. Then he would say , make your own mistakes, don't let anybody else make them for you! So now when I like something better than my money , I buy it

[hemiboy]

Is that wood harder than maple or birch which project pretty well, right , so alder, how does that compare with the maples . I think my Ludwigs from the 60's are 3ply mahogany