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  • Td11 as an upgrade to td9

    I just purchased a td11 on ebay thinking that the behavior modeling and sounds will be an upgrade. Will I notice the behavior modeling running pd 105 for snare and pd85's for toms ??? I also have pdx. 8 and 6's that I can swap out if needed Would these be better for the behavior modeling ????
    Mike
    Roland Td-9k

  • #2
    YES, good choice. It is an upgrade to both the sounds and you will see a very big improvement in snare rolls and cymbal swells with behavior modeling. It doesn't really matter what the input device is. The magic is in the module by way of how it uses the input information. You'll see!
    ATV aDrums & aD5, Pearl Mimic Pro & DIY, eDRUMin 10, Agean R-series Silent Cymbals, Roland Handsonic HPD-20.

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    • #3
      Good to know. I wasn't sure if the old pads benefitted from the newer brain. Thanks for your input. Hope others chime in
      Mike
      Roland Td-9k

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      • #4
        Allow me to clear this up, before any misconceptions arise: The TD-11 is/was not the direct replacement for the older TD-9 !








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        • #5
          It is solely my opinion, and certainly meant with no offense to anyone, as it is only an opinion, in an open and free exchange of opinions, that the TD-nine is actually superior to the TD-11. To me. The bottom line is sound. I will put the TD nine against the TD 11 any day, again only to me. If you go deep into the functions of the TD nine, and tweak it properly, it is an amazing sounding module. It is also solely my opinion that it is better than the TD 15, even though the TD 15 is supposed to be the replacement. (I'm speaking about the upgraded TD nine by the way). Of course, and obviously, the TD nine is not as good as TD 20, nor the TD 30, especially the TD 30 by any means whatsoever. I am going to acquire a TD 30 soon, (I have access, luckily, to Roland equipment wholesale), and use my TD nine as a gigging set and module. It is also my opinion that the TD nine kit is better laid out than the TD 11 kit. (We are talking about the upgraded TD nine kit as well). I have spoken this opinion prior, and I know I am probably the only one, or amongst very few who has this opinion. The TD-9 rocks in my opinion. I do not like the TD-11, NO OFFENSE MEANT; just in my opinion.

          For those who are choosing between the TD nine and the TD 11 I encourage you to spend time at your local drum shop with both of them and really mess around with them and you might see and hear what I am seeing and hearing. Maybe. Maybe not. That's how it should be. To each his own.
          TD-9 Module Gen 2; TMC-6 Slave Module; PD-105BK; PD-85BK x 3; CY-13R x 1; CY-12C x 3; Kit Toy China 15" x 1; Kit Toy Splash 10" x 2; KD-9; CY-5 x 2; FD-9-; Pintech Dinbat used as Cowbell; TDA-700 & Roland KCW-1 Sub Woofer; Pearl 902 Double Pedal; ROC-N-SOC V- Stool with Back Rest

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          • #6
            My opinion is that the TD9 v2 is better than the TD11 in many ways. However, the nine doesn't have the behaviour modelling that the Eleven has. Although the nine is a slightly older module, it is a mid-range module unlike the eleven which is more of an entry level module. For the most part I agree with Guru about the nine vs the eleven. Also, the eleven doesn't allow you to add many pads at all unlike the nine that has a midi connection which allows you to connect a TMC6 or another module.

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            • #7
              I'll get in trouble for this, but... I think the TD-11 sounds like utter garbage. Every time I play a TD-11 based kit, I find the sounds not much better than a drum machine. Very electronic sounding. Poor dynamic response. Poor selection of samples/drum sounds (whatever you guys want to call the "algorithms" for each drum sound). The TD-9 is a much better sounding module, with better dynamic response. I recommend the TD-9 over the TD-11.

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              • #8
                The eleven is probably a decent enough module but the features of the nine outweigh it significantly IMHO. However the attraction of the eleven is its behaviour modelling.

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                • #9
                  I'll echo what most others are saying here...the TD-11 is more of a downgrade than an upgrade from the TD-9. The TD-11 was not meant as a replacement for the TD-9. It's the TD-15 that was the TD-9's successor.

                  Don't go for a TD-11. My advice is to track down a TD-9v2 or look at a TD-15.

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                  • #10
                    Guys a few weeks ago I bought a demo/closeout TD9. I was in the store with a trade in and had been playing the TD11and was planning on buying it. I found the 9 in the corner collecting dust and just fell in love with it. A little skeptical about buying a previously played kit. But so far everything has been great. I'm new to this so I have a lot to learn about the electronics, but I can say that the layout is superior to what I first had planned to buy.....
                    Roland TD9KX2G - PD105BK Snare - 4 PD85BK Toms - VH11 - CY13R - CY12C - KD9 - MDS9 Stand

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by hairmetal-81 View Post
                      Allow me to clear this up, before any misconceptions arise: The TD-11 is/was not the direct replacement for the older TD-9 !
                      Originally posted by White_Pointer View Post
                      The TD-11 was not meant as a replacement for the TD-9. It's the TD-15 that was the TD-9's successor.

                      Correct.

                      The TD-11 replaced the TD-4 in the Spring of 2012 (The TD-4 module then "reappeared" when the TD-4KP V-Drums Portable was introduced in the Fall of 2012).


                      Quick TD Module Chronology:

                      TD-3 > TD-4* > TD-11
                      TD-6 > TD-6V > TD-9 > TD-15
                      TD-8 > TD-12
                      TD-10 > TD-20 > TD-20X > TD-30

                      * Still currently available with the TD-4KP V-Drums Portable.

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                      • KennyinDundee
                        KennyinDundee commented
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                        Perfect explanation, and as I thought.

                        Thanks!

                    • #12
                      Originally posted by Drew Armentrout View Post
                      Correct.


                      Quick TD Module Chronology:

                      TD-3 > TD-4* > TD-11
                      TD-6 > TD-6V > TD-9 > TD-15
                      TD-8 > TD-12
                      TD-10 > TD-20 > TD-20X > TD-30

                      * Still currently available with the TD-4KP V-Drums Portable.

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                      Overview that's easy to grasp - Nice and simple!
                      Thanks!
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                      Greetings from Switzerland,
                      - Dänoh



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                      • #13
                        The other thing to keep in mind is that as time progresses, the modules improve overall as a line. I'd rather have a TD-11 than a TD-8 in terms of sound and SuperNatural playability, for example. YMMV.
                        Last edited by jpsquared482; 03-09-14, 05:39 PM.
                        ATV aDrums & aD5, Pearl Mimic Pro & DIY, eDRUMin 10, Agean R-series Silent Cymbals, Roland Handsonic HPD-20.

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                        • #14
                          jpsquaed482 wrote:
                          The other thing to keep in mind is that as time progresses, the modules improve overall as a line. I'd rather have a TD-11 than a TD-8 in terms of sound and SuperNatural playability, for example. YMMV.
                          Fair enough. But, the bottom line is the TD-11 doesn't sound much like acoustic drums. At best, it sounds like an over-processed drum machine. The fact this module has Roland's latest "SuperNATURAL" and "behaviour modeling" stamps is irrelevant. The TD-9 is more playable and sounds more like acoustic drums.

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                          • #15
                            Hey fatchoppers, you've probably had the chance to try out the 11 now. what's your opinion of it compared to the TD9?

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