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    I remembered Allan mentioning in another thread that the new KAT amps were expected down here in Australia sometime early this year. After reading the review of them in digitalDrummer, I've decided that yes, getting a KA2 is probably the way to go for what I need.

    I started doing some research and found the main Australian distributer for the KAT/Alternate Mode stuff, which is Optimum Percussion in Burwood, Sydney: http://optimumpercussion.com.au/ I gave these guys a call and confirmed that yes, they stock the MalletKat and TrapKat stuff although don't stock the actual drumkits and amps. They did say they'll look into getting the amps though. They contacted another supplier (they didn't say who, but I assume it's these guys: http://www.promusicaustralia.com/dru...Percussion.htm) and confirmed the price.

    Are you ready for this?

    $699 for the KA2 ($399 for the KA1).

    I nearly fell off my chair.

    The KA2's sell for $369 in the US (the KA1's $219). I thought Roland were bad with their "Australia tax" price hikes but they are bargains compared to this. We're talking almost double the price here. Given the US pricing and the current exchange rates, I was expecting something maybe around for the $400 mark but $700? Are they kidding?

    To their credit, the guy I spoke to at Optimum (can't remember his name) said that if they get them in he'll try and do a better price for me, but I'm doubting it'll be a huge discount. Even so, these prices are absurd. I was thinking of possibly picking up two of them to run them in stereo but at that price it's definitely only going to be one.

    I've now starting thinking about the possibility of importing, as even with shipping it still ends up significantly cheaper than the local prices (eg I can get one on ebay from the US for AU$409.18 + AU$77.82 shipping). The digitalDrummer review mentions right at the end that the units are available with different voltages and plugs, but I wanted to confirm this before I actually did anything. Don't want to import one only to find that the plugs and voltages are wrong.

    Does anyone (anywhere in the world) actually own one of these? Can you confirm this is the case?

  • #2
    A couple of quick clarifications: digitalDrummer quotes street prices, not RRPs. The price you got from Optimum is the Australian RRP. Street prices are generally way below RRPs.
    Secondly, the KAT Percussion lines are not produced by Alternate Mode, but by KMC Music, the company behind Gretsch, Gibraltar, etc.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by allanjohn
      A couple of quick clarifications: digitalDrummer quotes street prices, not RRPs. The price you got from Optimum is the Australian RRP. Street prices are generally way below RRPs.
      Secondly, the KAT Percussion lines are not produced by Alternate Mode, but by KMC Music, the company behind Gretsch, Gibraltar, etc.
      I confirmed the US prices off Alternate Mode's website: http://www.alternatemode.com/cart/in...how&ref=KA2_US - You can add one to your cart right now and confirm the price of US$369.

      I also never claimed that Alternate Mode produced the KAT products

      I really want to support our local market, but these crazy prices make importing look very appealing.

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      • #4
        I think those KAT amps are identical inside to Simmons amps and possibly more branded variants. Whatever brand is sold natively in Aussie stores is your most economical pick and will have the right voltage and the right plug.
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        • #5
          The Simmons amps are not available here, they seem to be Guitar Centre USA exclusives. The KAT amps are the closest we'll get. They aren't quite identical, but pretty darn close. Unfortunately, the local prices are almost double US prices.

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          • #6
            Well I've just order a Gen 16 drum rack and 2 pickups online from the US for under $650 Australian including shipping. If I had bought them at a local store it would have cost me over $1000. It seems to be a general rule, as much as I want to shop locally it's far too expensive to do so.
            Kaiju
            Roland TD-15KV module and cymbals, Gen 16 AE rack, Gen 16 AE cymbals, Diamond Electronic Drums, Tama HP300 single pedal, Lectric Moo, Carmichael throne

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            • #7
              I can't comment on the voltage, but if the plug isn't interchangeable then you should be able to get an adaptor pretty easily. I had to with something else (maybe my Gen 16s) at first because they didn't supply the Australian stores with the Australian cables and they wanted to order me one in to swap it over. In the end it was just a standard cable that we had at home anyway.
              Kaiju
              Roland TD-15KV module and cymbals, Gen 16 AE rack, Gen 16 AE cymbals, Diamond Electronic Drums, Tama HP300 single pedal, Lectric Moo, Carmichael throne

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              • #8
                So yeah doing some more research, pretty much every US online retailer I've looked at that stocks the KA2, including Kraft, Sweetwater, ProAudioStar, Lone Star Percussion, Sam Ash, Interstatemusic - they all have a list price of US$369. Yet locally they are AU$699. They really must not want to sell them here.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Oenone
                  I can't comment on the voltage, but if the plug isn't interchangeable then you should be able to get an adaptor pretty easily. I had to with something else (maybe my Gen 16s) at first because they didn't supply the Australian stores with the Australian cables and they wanted to order me one in to swap it over. In the end it was just a standard cable that we had at home anyway.
                  This may be a bit more complicated as the Gen16 adaptor was dual voltage. A step-down transformer powerful enough for a drum amp will cost $100 or more (I know, I had to buy one for my Simmons DA200). They're big, heavy and noisy too, In the end, I opened the amp, sourced a new power supply and swtiched it over to 220v.
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                  • #10
                    Yeah, I don't know anything about voltage, just the plugs on the ends.
                    Kaiju
                    Roland TD-15KV module and cymbals, Gen 16 AE rack, Gen 16 AE cymbals, Diamond Electronic Drums, Tama HP300 single pedal, Lectric Moo, Carmichael throne

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                    • #11
                      Allan, is there any chance you can contact Scott Holder who did the reviews for the amps in digitalDrummer to confirm about the voltages and plugs? Specifically whether they can be switched over out of the box?

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                      • #12
                        I've asked Scott and I don't know if he still has reivew sample, but he should respond here soon.
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                        • #13
                          The voltage is not switchable - there are different 110 and 220v versions.
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                          • #14
                            Dang.

                            He implies though that both versions are available from the US. Maybe it's still possible to import these without needing a transformer as well, as long as you order the right version...though none of the online stores I've looked at provide an option to choose which voltage you want.

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                            • #15
                              Best to write an email to the US-store(s) and ask beforehand ...Explicitly mentioning the version you need/want...


                              HTH


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