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    Hi all, looking at buying a Alesis DM8 or 10 or a Roland TD4 all second hand or a Yamaha
    DTXpress 3, or DTX 550 out of those which do you think has most bang for buck/reliability/ sound quality which is probably the most important many thanks don

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    Welcome to the forum, jamsop!


    Focused on the three criteria's you've given (1. most bang for buck, 2. reliability, 3. sound quality) I'd focus on the Roland TD-4, the Yamaha DTX-550 and the Alesis DM-10. Let me explain my thoughts....

    Reliability:
    The first product not to consider any further would be the DM-8. It looks rather flimsy, especially the rubber-pads and cymbals. The DM-10 fares a bit better, due to including the sturdy chrome rack. Leading the field are Roland's TD-4 and the Yamaha kits, which, apart from the plastic clamps on the rack, are built to last you. Both companies haven't earned their reputation for no reason: Solid, reliable stuff.

    Sound Quality:
    Here, the next product to scrap from your list would be the DTXpress III. It's the oldest module of the bunch (introduced in January 2004). You can clearly hear quality-differences in Yamaha's 10-year-old factory-sounds. I wouldn't waste any more thoughts about the DTXpress III, not least because you also have the more recent DTX-550 on the list. The Alesis DM-10 module would offer the ability to load in new, updated sound-sets, however the support or continuity by Alesis in this regard is rather lackluster. You can ask for opinions on this subject on the Alesis-forums to see what I mean! Leading the pack with regards to internal sounds is the DTX-550. It's the most recent of the bunch (introduced at Summer-NAMM 2010), very closely followed by the Roland module (2009), which offer cool sounds, though could offer a bit more in the way of editing, apart from simple tuning- and muffling-parameters.

    Most Bang for the Buck:
    In this category, the TD-4 - if bought new - would have a disadvantage, as it is generally said by the vdrums-community that Roland's prices are a bit too step. Things get a lot more flattering for Roland's used prices, though. The Alesis kits are thought to offer a lot for your money. This is maybe diminished slightly by the reliability of the lower-end Alesis-parts and the overall sound quality. The most bang-for-buck, or the best Price/Performance-ratio, belongs without a doubt to Yamaha. No matter if you talk new or used - I feel a lot can be had for your money with Yamaha's entry- and midprice-level kits! The DTX-550 is a prime example here, only surpased by it's latest successor, the various kit-configurations based around the newest DTX-502 module.


    In conclusion, the one kit out of your list that has the best overall value in my opinion, would absolutely be the Yamaha DTX-550, which can bring you lots of joy. Only contested (at hopefully a good second-hand price) by the Roland TD-4, which isn't to be sneared at either!



    HTH



    Last edited by hairmetal-81; 02-15-14, 07:28 AM.


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    • #3
      Don't you mean "snared" at (ducks)? Sorry.
      TD-30++ (TD-30, Diamond Electronic Drums 14x5 snare+Ludwig Atlas Pro II, 2xPDX-8, 2xPDX-6, VH-11+Gibraltar 9607DL-LD, 2xCY-12C, CY-13R, KT-10) + DA200S, almost all on an MDS-4 and a bit on the floor.

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      • #4
        Thanks for the welcome and awesome advice!! the TD4 is selling on an auction website like ebay in new Zealand for $NZ 1150 reserve and the DTX 550 $NZ 2000

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        • #5

          Thanks very much for ur advice the TD4 is selling for $1150 reserve new Zealand dollars, and the DTX550 $2000

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          • #6
            Do both kits come with rubber-pads as toms and include a two-cymbal-plus-hihat setup?
            (I'm asking because it is hard giving further advice without knowing the exact kit-configuration or 'scope' of the auction...!)


            HTH


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            • #7
              I have an Alesis DM8 Pro & couldn't be happier with it. I converted the pads to mesh and they feel really good and it reduces the volume quite considerably.

              I use it to trigger Steven Slate Drums however, as I didn't think the in built sounds were too great, so that is probably the biggest weakness in it.

              If you have any questions, just ask & I'll try my best to help out!

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              • #8
                I'd say it's between the Roland and the Yamaha 550 kit for sure. Do both kits come in standard setups? ie snare, kick, 3 toms, hi-hat, crash, ride? Or does one kit sell with some extra stuff? And is the Roland kit all rubber pads? I guess the Yamaha kit comes with atleast one silicone pad? And the Yamaha comes with the 135HH hi-hat (the one you mount on a real hi-hat stand), right?
                Alot of questions but we need as much info as possible ;P

                //Mike.

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                • #9

                  Hi the 550 ~~Comes with:
                  -DTX500 sound module
                  -Hi-hat stand
                  -Hi-hat pad
                  -DTX-PAD snare (3 zones)
                  -3xTP65 Tom pads
                  -KP65 Kick drum pad
                  -PCY135 and PCY155 3-zone chokeable cymbal pads used as crash (13 inch) and large size ride (15 inch) cymbals
                  TD4 looks like basic kit 3 toms kick/snare/hihat 2 crash/ride
                  DTXpress 3 again probably basic kit 3 toms/snare/2 crash/ride/ hi hat/kick
                  DM8 3 toms/acoustic type hi hat with pedal/clutch kick/snare etc all appear to have rubber pads none have mesh

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                  • #10
                    Links to the auctions would help, or maybe pictures, but as it stands, if the DTX550 looks anything like this here....





                    ...then you can't go wrong picking it up!




                    HTH


                    "My best friends' name is J-SON. They used to call him 'Mr. Parse.' He has an 'Error'..!"

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                    • #11
                      Yeah I would totally go for the Yamaha-kit, those silicone pads seem great and I'd strongly advice on upgrading the rubber pads to silicone in the future. I don't know if Yamaha has done any real changes to their rubber pads in the last couple of years, but before I graduated from Continuational School with music as my main studies we had this DTXplorer kit we had to practice on when the mole-people (the people studying media like photography and editing) on the floor below our practice rooms complained too much when me and my friends were jamming a bit too loud and those rubber pads gave me and most other drummers there some serious wrist-pains.

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                      • #12
                        Just curious....you've narrowed down your kit choices but I was wondering what you actually plan on doing with your kit? If you ever plan on gigging or semi serious recording or upgrading then you *may* want to get the best used kit you can find. Best as in latest/largest module so it will grow with you. You never can account for GAS or when or why it may strike! Post some pics when you get all sorted out.

                        K ;-)
                        My bands: Alter Ego, Arcanum
                        E Kit = Roland TDW-20s kit // Roland SPD-S// Pearl Demon Drives//
                        A Kit = Tama Swingstar 5 pc (1981) w/roto toms (orig owner!) //Zildjians
                        A Kit = Natal 6 pc with Paiste 2000 & Zildjian/MidiKNights/DrumSplitters

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