Cymbomute

[chain]

Just stumbled on this, a nice way to mute cymbals?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRLpFSV_W1E

[Trip McNealy]

Hmmmmm cool!!! I wonder if these would be enough to mute the cymbals for A2E conversions without the need for vinyl on the underside!

[chain]

my thoughts exactly!

[haggis-man]

I have these on all my acoustic cymbals and they work very well. I also have made removable single zone triggers so that I can turn the cymbals into full acoustics and back again in a couple of minutes.

Cheers

[chain]

Really? Thats very cool, do have pics or schemes on how you did it? Do you find that muting the cymbal only with this is enough compared to say a roland ou Yamaha cymbal?

[triggera]

It definitely can't compare to rubber cymbals in terms of noise, at least stick noise. But for some people/conditions that would be acceptable enough ...

[chain]

I was thinking this cymbomute + pattex for the stick noise, maybee that will work. Only if it is a single zone cymbal though, the vibrations would make it imposible to isolate the diferente piezos I guess.

[haggis-man]

Actually the stick noise is minimal, just like an acoustic cymbal that has been muted with vinyl or flashing tape. (I've used these more permanent methods too)

[EssKayKay]

So what about adding these to the Zildjian Gen16’s? I realize the Gen16’s are much quieter than a standard cymbal but I also heard they are still considerably louder than a standard Roland or Yamaha e-cymbal.

I do not own any Gen16’s but am considering purchasing these. However sound is an issue in my household and as such have not yet jumped on that train. Maybe these would be beneficial here to – crash, ride, or even hi-hat. Any thoughts?

SKK

[chain]

Well, I guess they would mute them well but you would still have the problema of the stick noise. And adding a mouse pad or some other type of dampening would be a shame I think.

[Tazed]

The Gen16 are quite a bit louder than Roland rubber (I just got some on Friday!) but it's a different sort of noise, obviously.
The frequency is different, so the 'thump' of whacking the rubber pad doesn't carry through walls the same way.
So, when my wife's got the TV on the loungeroom, she hears the drum pads, but the Gen16s largely vanish into the TV sound, where the cymbal pads could be heard more clearly. YMMV, of course.
Now, as far as they sound to the player, that's a whole other story and I'm not far enough into that journey yet to make a definitive assessment...

[Bdknocks]

I make my own version of cymbal mutes and I use them on my gen16's but I also converted them to full electronic triggers so I don't want or need them to make any noise. I still of course get stick noise but that's unavoidable unless you put rubber on the strike zones.
The cymbal mutes work great and I think they make the cymbals look better!
I posted pics of them in the DIY section the other day in a thread called "My Monster Kit"

[EssKayKay]

Probably true, but, do you think they would trigger the same?

[Oenone]

Well the Gen 16s don't trigger as such, but I'm guessing they need the full sound to go through the pickups. I could be completely wrong though. These are a good price, and shipping is very reasonable too, even to Australia, so I might give it a shot.

[Vectron]

I remember seeing something like this, several years ago, and even had my mom make one by sewing a wide elastic. It worked great.