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    First post on the vdrum site and pretty much a reengaging in the drummer world after a 15 year layoff to have kids and the such. I recently bought a TD20 and having a blast with it but during the layoff I did take up the guitar and bought stuff to play that instrument. I'm currently running my TD20 through a guitar amp and there are many comments about that being an awful idea to which I'd agree. So I don't amplify anymore and going through headphones and cheap ones at that. I'm starved for good sound and looking at buying a Roland P30 or Roland CM110 (satellite) or something you all would recommend. I want some volume but I'm not playing live (at least yet) but what I really want is great drum sound and looking for sound advice. $500-600 is in range but I've seen some used stuff on craigslist for $250 (single cabinet Roland/Simmons style). Thanks in advance for any and all help and also if you have recommendations on where to buy, I'll process that.

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    There's a whole sticky thread dedicated to this subject, but it mostly focuses on monitors to use while playing live.

    I think the general consensus for what you need is that the Simmon DA200S is a great bang-for-buck solution:

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/drums...um-set-monitor
    eKit (TD-30KV): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/performa...y-s-drums-td39
    aKit: (Tama Starclassic): http://www.vdrums.com/forum/acoustic...ma-starclassic
    TD30Browser: http://www.vdrums.com/forum/general/...4-td30-browser

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    • #3
      ~~I bought the Simmons DA200S New in May 2013 September 2013 (4 months)the subwoofer stopped working, Guitar center swapped it out after I had to pay again for another warranty 260.00 .
      Jan 2014 (2 months)the high end stop working on this new amp. They sent it to be fixed..they say they don't have the parts it needs. I'll get a 260.00 gift card. I play a ~~Roland TD-11K V-Drums V-Compact Series bought new in May 2013.I am in a cover band where I am the youngest member at 53.I never pushed the amp past 1/2 way.
      Everyone praises this monitor I don't understand why. I am so disappointed in this product I really cannot express it anyone have any clue why this would happened? To blow out a amp playing Night moves by bob seger...? My stick busting days are past me..Now I have to post what amp can I use that will not poop the bed so easily

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      • fastballer8
        fastballer8 commented
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        That's really unfortunate to hear. I've had my DA200S for a few years now and there are times where I've pushed the dial to about 3/4 or so and really blasted it and have never had an issue. I wonder if you've just had to bad luck of getting a few defective ones. Sorry to hear that.

    • #4
      I have had the pm3 and pm 30 and now use a Mackie thump 12a and it is just right for home use plus it is very useful for lots of other instruments and cheap

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      • #5
        Thanks for the input....Sevanace it sounds like some bad karma surrounds you and Simmons but more noteworthy is that purchasing the warranty has cost you more money than it's saved. Spanner I will will look into the Mackie thump...I've had good experiences with Mackie monitors in the past. I found a Roland KC-500 on craigslist in my town today for $250. Provided it isn't blown in any way, would this be a decent option? It obviously has way more volume than needed for a home gig but it does have a four channel basic mixer in it for vocal and guitar stuff when I'm playing around with those but my priority is great sound for the kit and I don't want to buy the KC if it isn't dynamic enough. Thoughts?

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        • #6
          You want a GREAT drum monitor then look no further than a JBL EON 515XT... All I can say is these things are unbelievable sounding and I had the Mackie Thump Th-15a's and there is no comparison to the sound quality. http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-a...red-pa-speaker

          I 100% indorse this product to be that good !!!
          Roland TD-12 Ludwig A2E 5pc kit, VH-11
          Studio Drummer, Abbey Road 60's 70's 80's, AD2, SSD4, SD3
          Komplete Audio 6, JBL Eon 515XT, Mackie FX12, DAW Studio One 3

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          • #7
            Originally posted by hughesor View Post
            Thanks for the input....Sevanace it sounds like some bad karma surrounds you and Simmons but more noteworthy is that purchasing the warranty has cost you more money than it's saved. Spanner I will will look into the Mackie thump...I've had good experiences with Mackie monitors in the past. I found a Roland KC-500 on craigslist in my town today for $250. Provided it isn't blown in any way, would this be a decent option? It obviously has way more volume than needed for a home gig but it does have a four channel basic mixer in it for vocal and guitar stuff when I'm playing around with those but my priority is great sound for the kit and I don't want to buy the KC if it isn't dynamic enough. Thoughts?
            That is a good amp, IMHO, and many on this forum use it with great pleasure and success, and if that is a good working amp, at that price, sounds like a good deal.
            Last edited by GuruMyStick; 02-18-14, 07:18 AM.
            TD-9 Module Gen 2; TMC-6 Slave Module; PD-105BK; PD-85BK x 3; CY-13R x 1; CY-12C x 3; Kit Toy China 15" x 1; Kit Toy Splash 10" x 2; KD-9; CY-5 x 2; FD-9-; Pintech Dinbat used as Cowbell; TDA-700 & Roland KCW-1 Sub Woofer; Pearl 902 Double Pedal; ROC-N-SOC V- Stool with Back Rest

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            • #8
              Originally posted by hughesor View Post
              Thanks for the input....Sevanace it sounds like some bad karma surrounds you and Simmons but more noteworthy is that purchasing the warranty has cost you more money than it's saved. Spanner I will will look into the Mackie thump...I've had good experiences with Mackie monitors in the past. I found a Roland KC-500 on craigslist in my town today for $250. Provided it isn't blown in any way, would this be a decent option? It obviously has way more volume than needed for a home gig but it does have a four channel basic mixer in it for vocal and guitar stuff when I'm playing around with those but my priority is great sound for the kit and I don't want to buy the KC if it isn't dynamic enough. Thoughts?
              It seems like you've had some unusual negative series of things occur with this amp. There are many threads about amps in this form. There are many threads about the particular amp in this form. The overwhelming majority of people who have given opinions on that amp stated positive things. I as well have one, amongst other amps, and still say it is one of the best bangs for the buck. I have used it for many years, for many uses, and have never had one single issue with it. Maybe three times is a charm?
              TD-9 Module Gen 2; TMC-6 Slave Module; PD-105BK; PD-85BK x 3; CY-13R x 1; CY-12C x 3; Kit Toy China 15" x 1; Kit Toy Splash 10" x 2; KD-9; CY-5 x 2; FD-9-; Pintech Dinbat used as Cowbell; TDA-700 & Roland KCW-1 Sub Woofer; Pearl 902 Double Pedal; ROC-N-SOC V- Stool with Back Rest

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              • #9
                After some further research on the subject and factoring in that I also sing and strum in addition to playing on the new kit, I'm going all in on the JBL EON per YZF's suggestion. It sounds like this powered speaker has enough frequency to give me the sound quality I want with some power and offers some other possibilities. Before I press 'order', if you have thoughts feel free to share otherwise thanks to all for the great input and help on my journey.

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                • #10
                  I have the EON 515XT (Two for my home studio) and a Simmons DA200S. The EON is a great all around PA speaker and is plenty loud. I use it for outdoor backyard jam sessions, my home studio, occasional monitor speaker, etc. However, for drumming it's not as punchy as the DA200, which for me is also plenty loud for on-stage amplification/monitoring. So, for drumming, I really like the Simmons. However, I also have a lower back issue, and it's heavy (and lacks side handles, which I guess you could add). The EON is much more manageable in terms of weight.

                  All the above considered, I saw that JBL is launching the next generation to the EON - The 615. http://jblpro.com/www/products/porta...5#.UwDGikJdWnM
                  It has a street price of $599 and has three cool upgrades to the 515: Bluetooth capability and apps for Android and iOS as well as 1,000 watts and cool "waveguide" design that improves radial dispersion of even the lows. This could be especially hand on stage so the whole band gets an even representation of your amp without having to crank it for the band members off center - for situations where monitors are minimal or non-existent, for example.

                  So, before you press "order", I'm thinking this JBL EON 616 could be just what the Dr. ordered for VDrums.
                  Pearl Mimic Pro, eDRUMin 10, ATV aDrums, DIY Conversion kit, Agean R-series Silent Cymbals, Roland Handsonic HPD-20.

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                  • #11
                    Also check the JBL PRX515 or 615 if you can find them used. The eons are great but the PRX haver more power,low end and better sound quality similar to QSC speakers. The PRX 515 almost sounds like it has a sub. I have seen them used for $500 to $600.

                    If you don't mind a taller cabinet,there is a JBL PRX 615 new on ebay for $700.00 . It has 2 15"s and is ideal for edrums because it takes up the same amount of floor space but puts the speaker closer to ear height. I used the PRX515 for edrums and it did not need a sub. The sound quality is amazing and they have a lot more clean power than the eon line. They are usually a lot more expensive but there seem to be some deals out there. The prx line is also light weight for the size.

                    Peter

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                    • #12
                      After much investigation of comments etc. I went to GC today and picked up a DA50. I just need it for one room or a basement jam. It's perfect IMO, and the 33 pounds is what I'm looking for. I have a Peavey KB100 modded with a EVM 15L for any gigging I might do. It's way too powerful for a basement, I need to crank it too much to get some bottom end. Before buying, I tested a DA200, much more power than I need (sadly for the couple extra $$s). Plus the weight is twice the DA50, I'm getting too old for that stuff. The Peavey is now over 70 lbs with the EVM. I played a TD-15 kit, and I'm happy to say with the VExpressions kits I like the sound and feel of my TD-6V. That just saved me over a grand and satified my GAS for now. So far, I'm really impressed by the DA50!
                      TD6SW V Tour. Currently Acoustically-Challenged-Sold my '63 RoundBadge Kit w/original K Zildjians.:(

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                      • #13
                        I listened to the 515XT today at guitar center. They would not let me hook it up to a kit though. I sounded really good but I decided to wait until April for the EON 615 that comes in at 39 pounds. I saw it advertised for per order for $499. I also spent a bit of time on the TD-30KV. I get GAS every time I try one. Thanks for sharing your experience.
                        Equipment: TD-30KV, DW9000 hardware, ROC-N-SOC Throne, Behringer ULTRATONE K3000FX Amp, JBL EON 615 Powered Speaker, Yamaha MG06X. 1965 Ludwig Super Classic. Black diamond pearl. Zildjian K Custom Dark cymbals, DW 7000 hardware, DW 9000 kick pedal.

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                          • #15
                            I recently switched over to a QSC K12 and am loving it. It's light, small and 1,000 watts all for $675 from Pro Audio Star Audio in NY. Everyone has their own wedges or in ears though so I only need to worry about myself, if they need to hear me they add to to their mix

                            Info here.... http://www.proaudiostar.com/qsc-k12-...er.html#videos
                            TD50 Digital Pack, TD30 and TD9 Modules, custom made pads, Gen16 crashes, and hats plus a few other things that I'm not sure what to do with or why they're still in my kit. Bands: Espada http://www.musicaespada.com/ and JamCo https://www.facebook.com/JamcoEntertainment, https://www.jamcoband.com/

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