New edrum manufacturer??

[sepdrums]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=10175

http://hometown.aol.com/retpercussion/ret.html



Think these guys will last, or go away like the Zombie drums??




Erik

[Ranman]

Oooohhh... Pretty!!!!!

Not a bad looking kit at all. I'm anxious to hear reviews!

[Jimmy C]

Cool...although it does seem like most(?) people prefer silent mesh heads these days...

[TomLandin]

These are produced in Central IL and are on display at Sound Check Music Store in Decatur IL. I got the chance a few weeks ago to play on them (conected to a TD-6). All around a good product, and very sharp looking. Rhett is still working on dual zone cymbals - due out later this year. As I understand, he has worked closely with Roland to ensure the triggering works with Roland modules. A little louder than mesh heads, but still quiet.

[szvook]

Re: Re: New edrum manufacturer??

Originally posted by Albator
I've always wondered why you could get acoustic drums in just about any color you could think of & why there is virtually no color choice for the electic ones???

[sepdrums]

Good point Szvook.

I would imagine that Hart either purchases the wood shells already finished, or if they do finish them, they do a lot at once.... So to stock many different colors would be too expensive.
They already have problems building gear fast enough as it is....so build to order would take 6 months....

Man, I should start building spacemuffin spinoffs... and ship them with no heads to that patents are not infringed upon....

Erik

[szvook]

[sepdrums]

I talked to Evans about this at a NAMM show - they laughed.

I wanted to get red mesh heads for the ddrum kit - would be killer.

If those white Roland heads can be dyed....hmmmm


Erik

[Shep2112]

Hey Erik, I bet you could experiment with dyes for dress shoes and some weed-wacker trimmer line. A really light gauge would seem about the same as the mesh heads, no?
-Eric

[sepdrums]

I couldnt imagine weaving that ****e into a head...
Torture...maybe everyone here could get their grandma's working in a seniors sweat shop to knit mesh heads out of weed wacker string

Just kidding... However that would be a rough job by hand.

I am sure they get that material in sheets like what is used for silk screening.... Then there are presses / dies that cut and shape it....and another process to either glue or crimp it into the ring....

Erik

[gingerbaker]

How about making edrums even less like real drums, and more like the ideal gigging set up?

How about a kit like the Arbiter Lights - NO shells - just a rim and a mesh head, a graphite rack, all the drums nest into each other, the WHOLE thing packs into a single bag and weighs less than twenty pounds.

That's what I want, and I'll take the rims any color they want to make them.

[sepdrums]

You know - the best way to do this with existing materials, aside from having molds made for injection molding, or casting -

Ever see the Peavey acoustic drums - Radial Bridge?? They make a version in some type of polymer. Years ago I contacted them about purchasing just the Radial Bridge - they laughed at me...

BUT - if that can be done - it is a shellless mount for your head, rim, and tension lugs.... A trigger could be added in a zillion different ways.

Graphite rack - no prob... there are many graphite tube manufacturers out there...

So - people are after a superlight, super strong kit eh??

Anyone have a contact at Peavey - private message me.

Erik

[Shep2112]

Well, actually I meant try dyeing the trimmer line, not make your own heads!

Just to see how much dye, how long to dip it, etc it would take, without messing up perfectly good mesh heads in the process..

There's a company that makes carbon fiber drum racks already actually.. that's prolly stronger than graphite..

here: http://carbonlite.bigstep.com/

Would be tough to come in under 20 lbs with these racks being 10, unless you had some really lightweight mounts for the shell-less drums, but 30lbs doesn't seem like an unreasonable goal..
-Eric

[OldGuy_E2P]

Ah ha! I'm not the only one ...

Originally posted by gingerbaker
How about making edrums even less like real drums, and more like the ideal gigging set up?

How about a kit like the Arbiter Lights - NO shells - just a rim and a mesh head, a graphite rack, all the drums nest into each other, the WHOLE thing packs into a single bag and weighs less than twenty pounds.

That's what I want, and I'll take the rims any color they want to make them.

I've been wondering about using a variation of the Arbiter concept - I even started a thread about it here a while back. It seems like it should make for a great working drummers E Kit.

The key would be having hardware designed for fast set-ups and tear-downs. Maybe even have the wiring integrated into the assembly. A second important aspect of the mechanical design is vibration isolation, to eliminate crosstalk.

As much as I like to hide behind the kit, I'd rather go ultralight with a setup like GIngerbaker describes here than deal with nice finished wood shells. For which I would need more cases, and have to be more careful with.

JMHO,
E2P,
Old and tired of toting stuff around .....

[Shep2112]

Does anyone remember the Purecussion drumkits?

That design would be a good start.. They invented the RIMS mounts that have been copied by everyone, cept they designed it in the 70's.. DW bought them out and closed down the Purecussion drum manufacturing division I guess.. It's prolly more complicated than that..

But that's an idea for inspiration..