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**drumbeat8u** · 08-20-01, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by fartnokker:
Hey folks, mainly based on what I've read here (plus wanting to experiment with my home recording), I just bought a BBE 262 2-channel Sonic Maximizer off eBay. It is an older model no longer in production, but I read thru the manual on their website & got the lowdown. 1/4" in and output, so it won't do anything for the lo-Z signal, but I'm looking forward to experimenting with it soon.

For you guys using BBE's: I run 4 outputs from my TD-10ex, with separate outs for the snare and kick, and a stereo tom/efx mix. I was planning on using the BBE for the snare and kick channels. Good idea? FYI, I am running no other outboard gear at this time.

Also, does anyone out there use the model 262? Any thoughts on it? I got it for $50 + shipping in (supposedly) excellent condition. Evidently the seller has a good rep, and I've got access to lots of electronic test equipment & plan to go over it pretty thoroughly when it arrives.

Thanks, and I appreciate all feedback.

-Danny

I use the BBE 462. This is an amazing little box. I use the direct outs into a Mackie 1202 mixer and from there into the BBE. It works great! You will be amazed how bright and clear the sound will be. If I were you, I would not split up the snare and bass into the BBE. I would run everything through it.

**Schmunk** · 08-21-01, 06:55 AM

I agree with drumbeat4u, get a little 4-channel mixer (Behringer/Mackie etc), then mix down your 4 outputs from the TD-10 into a stereo mix. Put this straight through the BBE and **WHAMMO**, sparkly sound for all of your kit. Then you just smugly hand the venue's sound man 2 1/4" jacks and go for a beer.

Schmunk

**fartnokker** · 08-21-01, 11:05 AM

Thanks for the feedback, guys. I specifically run the 4 outs for live gigging and recording. Reason is, it allows the soundman to make adjustments on the fly that I might not hear the necessity for.

So far, in the 1.5 years that I've been using the V's, I've been told by the sound guys that having the kick and snare separate is better, due to individual channel EQ'ing requirements for compensating for different venues. What I mean by this is that mixing/EQ'ing the kick to fit a specific room/PA system might require completely different settings than what a kick would, not to mention effects. While a bit of 'verb or delay on the snare makes the whole kit sound bigger and warmer, the same effect on the kick would tend to muddy it up.

Any of this make sense? I wish I was able to get 2 BBE 262's and use them for all 4 outs, not to mention a 4-channel DI box for bumping the signal, but unfortunately, that ain't in my budget!!! I'm picking up this 262 for only $50, and that is about as much as I can afford. $2000/month mortgage and new $400/month car payment have me strapped, especially when I'm also in the middle of customizing my Harley!!!!

Being on a tight budget, I'm running the 4 outs thru a homemade snake, 1/4 inch to 1/4 inch, with 4 XLR adapters to use if the application requires. So far, I've only had 1 venue tell me my signal was too weak, but I can't really do anything about it right now.

How about this: Whaddaya guys think about me running my snare and toms to 1 out, and the kick to another? That way, I can have 2 channels out and still keep the kick separate? After all, how many PA's actually run stereo???

If anyone has any pros/cons regarding this setup, lemme know. That way, I can still run the 4 outs for recording, where the effects are controlled at the console, and use the BBE for all (both) channels live.

Thanks for the input, folks.

-Danny

**dr. kildrum** · 08-21-01, 11:42 AM

Don't know, but can you use adapters that combine two 1/4in ins down to one 1/4in out before the BBE? (a two 1/4in female to one 1/4in male stereo adapter at radio shack is a few bucks.) If it works you could have four outs down to two before the BBE live, and the same four outs direct to your console when recording.

I definitely agree with separating kick, snare, toms and cymbals if possible. I send kick through one side of my BBE, cymbals through the other. I am still experimenting with sending toms and snare through either one side or splitting and going through both sides at different amounts of send/return.

What kind of Harley? Hmmm... Wait a minute. A Harley through a BBE...the mind boggles. It might just be the sonic equivalent of an orgasm.

**fartnokker** · 08-21-01, 02:37 PM

97 Sportster 1200, but hooking my open pipes thru the BBE might cause some damage!!!

Since I'm using acoustic cymbals, they aren't an issue for the BBE. I'm really more concerned about the kick and snare, which comprise 90 - 95% of what I do. If this works out well, I might just try to find another BBE for the L/R tom outs!

-Danny

**Multilin** · 08-21-01, 07:49 PM

dr.kildrum,
The only way to combine 2 different signals into 1 is with a mixer. You can split 1 signal into 2 or more of the same signal by using adapters,yes, but as far as joing 2 different signals together as 1, this is done only with summing amps which is what a mixer is all about.
Hope this is helpfull.

**dr. kildrum** · 08-22-01, 07:32 AM

Multilin,
Figured as much. I've always done it with mixers so really just didn't know. Thanks.

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