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  • how do i get this sound ?

    Hello

    i am sure u all know the song ''Child in time" from deep purple.This song has lovely edge sounds on the cymbals in the beginning.How do i get this sound using a td-12 module and either cy-8 or cy-12 (does it make any difference ?)

    thanks
    Ex E-kits:
    ''Lernean Hydra'' ( a bounche of roland pads with a td-6 module)
    ''Lucy'' (Diamond electronic drums with a td-12 module)
    current E-kit
    ''Cherry Gretschy Lady'' (Gretsch Catalina Ash 6 piece A to E kit-Roland td20 module-A to E cymbals)

    A-kit
    " Mrs.Catalina'' (Gretsch Catalina maple 6 piece kit-Paiste signature+Masterwork custom made cymbals)

    check out a few videos http://www.youtube.com/user/hampisdrums

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    Those are taps and rolls on the bell of the cymbal with the tip of the stick.
    Easy to do on an acoustic....no idea how to create that with e-cymbals. Maybe map some bell sounds to the bow of one or more cymbals?
    Have you done the bell-fix that some others have done here? Not sure if it would make a difference or not. Maybe someone that has done it will chime in....

    For reference, studio version is here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDskym_V1GI

    BTW, thanks for reminding me of this one....time to go dust off my old copy of "Made In Japan"......
    Last edited by Colquhoun; 11-30-08, 11:30 PM.

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    • #3
      I think this is a very BASIC feature every ecymbal should have.I don't wanna believe roland has not workrd on this.Actually it,s a soft bow tic not an edge as i said neither a bell . I use it very often on accoustic for ballads mainly.
      Colg....btw made in japan is Imo the best live album ever !!
      Ex E-kits:
      ''Lernean Hydra'' ( a bounche of roland pads with a td-6 module)
      ''Lucy'' (Diamond electronic drums with a td-12 module)
      current E-kit
      ''Cherry Gretschy Lady'' (Gretsch Catalina Ash 6 piece A to E kit-Roland td20 module-A to E cymbals)

      A-kit
      " Mrs.Catalina'' (Gretsch Catalina maple 6 piece kit-Paiste signature+Masterwork custom made cymbals)

      check out a few videos http://www.youtube.com/user/hampisdrums

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      • #4
        Originally posted by hampis View Post
        Actually it,s a soft bow tic not an edge as i said neither a bell .
        I beg to differ....it's ALL bell, on 3 cymbals.
        Check out this vid:
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJCTrolF3CY

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        • #5
          It's definitely played on the bell. From the first YouTube clip Colquhoun posted, it sounds like it's played a little more on the bow for the last hit in each group, but it might just be because it's a different cymbal. But yeah, it's definitely bell.

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          • #6
            E-cymbals don't use the bells?!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dave_b View Post
              E-cymbals don't use the bells?!
              They do, but you need to whack the snot out of them.
              Thus, you get a bell "whack" sound, and not the "nuanced-Ian-Paice-stick-tip-bell-dance" that makes the song.
              The bell fix modification should make this possible, as it greatly increases the sensitivity of the bell on CY-12, 14 and 15 cymbals. Modify at your own risk, but there have been MANY happy modifiers here on this forum.

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              • #8
                yes it's obvious it's bell u are right colq....swear i saw it somewhere with the edge...anyway that;s not the point.

                so even if u get close to this sound u can do it only with a td-12 module and only on a cy-12 right ?
                well this is one of the things i don't like on roland products.It's so common on an accoustic set, why do u need to get the hell out of you (did i say it right ?)
                to get this
                Ex E-kits:
                ''Lernean Hydra'' ( a bounche of roland pads with a td-6 module)
                ''Lucy'' (Diamond electronic drums with a td-12 module)
                current E-kit
                ''Cherry Gretschy Lady'' (Gretsch Catalina Ash 6 piece A to E kit-Roland td20 module-A to E cymbals)

                A-kit
                " Mrs.Catalina'' (Gretsch Catalina maple 6 piece kit-Paiste signature+Masterwork custom made cymbals)

                check out a few videos http://www.youtube.com/user/hampisdrums

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by hampis View Post
                  yes it's obvious it's bell u are right colq....swear i saw it somewhere with the edge...anyway that;s not the point.

                  so even if u get close to this sound u can do it only with a td-12 module and only on a cy-12 right ?
                  well this is one of the things i don't like on roland products.It's so common on an accoustic set, why do u need to get the hell out of you (did i say it right ?)
                  to get this
                  You can only get a bell sound by hitting a bell on a CY-12, 14 or 15....
                  UNLESS you map one of the bell sounds to the bow of a CY-5 or CY-8. And you don't need a TD-12 for bell sounds. Just map any of the rdb sounds (instrument #631, #641, #645 etc. on a TD-6) to the bow of the CY-8...keep the edge as a crash, save the kit as "Paice" and off you go.

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                  • #10
                    Would putting various bell sounds on the drum rims work??
                    I would think that would be an easy way to do it off hand.



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