Mixing a Yamaha Module with Roland Set

[brock786]

Hey again guys, I recently had a thread about sampling sounds with the brain and found out you can only do that with the Yamaha DTXtreme. So my question is: what do you think of combining a Roland Mesh head set with a Yamaha DTXtreme brain? Would everything function properly or can you only use Roland brains with roland drums?

Oh also does anyone know if you can sample with the DTXtreme IIs or only the DTXtreme III?

Thanks in advance!

[brock786]

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[doxxon3]

Hey again guys, I recently had a thread about sampling sounds with the brain and found out you can only do that with the Yamaha DTXtreme. So my question is: what do you think of combining a Roland Mesh head set with a Yamaha DTXtreme brain? Would everything function properly or can you only use Roland brains with roland drums?

Oh also does anyone know if you can sample with the DTXtreme IIs or only the DTXtreme III?

Thanks in advance!

You'll be fine with most Roland pads & cymbals, but the hi hat controller and snare drums are a bit different. Yamaha has uses a stereo piezo trigger in the snare that gives it three zone capability. In my experience, putting a Roland pad on a Yamaha module only works with one zone- the main snare sound. The hi hat controller has what I believe is just oppsite polarity than that of Roland, so you would need either a pedal with a polarity switch or a customer built add-on trigger switch.

As far as sampling, I'm pretty sure the DTXreme III also does it, but some else could better answer that question.

[kevincool87]

Both IIs and III can sample. IIs has 8MB internal memory that you can use for your samples, but you can store more in external SM cards. It's just that only 8MB of them can be used at one time.

III works a little different, you have to purchase 1 or 2 pc memory DIMM cards and use them as RAM. You can only install upto 2 256MB DIMM cards giving you a total of 512MB of samples to use at one time. Instead of conventional memory cards you can use USB memory sticks as external storage, and I don't think III has any size limits on them so that's a big plus. Downside is not all USB sticks work with III... more info on this over at dtxperience.com. So you can have upto 8GB-16GB of samples ready to load up.

Roland cymbals can work upto 2 zones with Yamaha modules. Unfortunately unlike the Yamaha PCY-150 mod there is no mod for Roland CY-15R to work as 3 zones with Yamaha yet.

Pads can only have 1 zone. But regardless of the wiring that makes the rim zone not triggerable with Yamaha modules, when I had my IIs I were able to trigger the rim zone of my Pintech ConcertCast pads. Weird I know. But who cares if pads once in a while defile the law of... circuits. Anyway to get a fully working 2 zone pads with Yamaha modules you need a Keith raper circuit. Search around the forum for details on how to make this.

As for the Roland hi-hat to work with Yamaha modules.. you only need a stereo to mono adapter which you can get from radioshack. Just stick it in your hi hat controller padel and viola.

Hope this helps

[brock786]

Ok well I'm at a point where I can either get a Roland V-Series TD10 for 1k or a Yamaha DTXtreme IIs for 1,500. I want to be able to sample but at the same time I like the mesh heads and what not of the Roland. What do you think my best bet is? Should I get the Roland and maybe get and SPD-S alongside or just stick with the Yamaha and maybe get a SPD-S alongside that?

I know it's a Roland forum but what do you think would be the pro's and con's of each?