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  • Question about piecing together a kit

    So I have been wanting to step into an e-kit setup for years but have never really gotten down to it. This christmas looks like the time when i will step and buy myself a nice present.

    I don't have a ton to spend so I will be trying to piece it together as I go. I know that it will likely cost me more in the long run, but i feel it is the best way for me.

    My thoughts so far are that I will basically be putting together a td-20 kit.
    buy the module first, then a couple pads (kd125's and 105's) and then work on the rest starting with the hi-hat and bass drum, then working on cymbals and peripherals.

    One main question I have, can I mount everything to my existing drumstands? I have TONS of DW9000 hardware sitting around in my garage and if I could mount all the pads and cymbals to those that would be AWESOME. I know that the rack wouldn't set me back too far.. but personally I have always disliked racks and to me it's just more money that I may not have to spend.

    Any answers? Otherwise tell me what you think.

    Thanks all,
    B

  • #2
    Sounds like a good idea to me. I loathe moving my rack around, and would think having stuff on stands would make transport easier. It would also cut way down on crosstalk, although I have had very little trouble with that myself.

    You might want to consider getting some of the PD100s and converting them to dual zone. Fairly simple operation from what I understand.

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    • #3
      Theoretically you should be able to user your stands. Look at the arms for the toms tho. Roland uses those L-brackets and you might need adaptors depending, again, on your hardware.

      And yeah, buy as much module as you can first. Then work on pads and cymbals. And don't necessarily limit yourself to Roland. There's lots of other products out there that are every bit as good as Roland and cost a helluva lot less.

      Also consider used. Most of my kit is used--for that matter, my module is used. Saved me a bundle over the long haul.

      www.myspace.com/rubberuniverse
      TD-12, DTX502, SD1000, EZDrummer, Diamond Drum 12" snare, S1000 toms/cymbals/kick, PCY10/100/135/155, CY-5/14, Hart Ride, Hart Acupad 8" kick, Epedal Pro II, Concept 1 pads/cymbals, SD1000 & Roland V Sessions racks, PD-7, Kit Toy 10" splash, DMPad ride, SamplePad, PerformancePad Pro

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      • #4
        Hear is photo I found on this site that will give you good idea on where to start with your edrums. I've always like to traditional look. Been thinking about doing the same thng. Also do a search for 'mini jazz kits' . http://vdrums.com/forum/attachment.p...8&d=1086665974
        Raptor
        Hebrews 11:6

        Roland spd-30, Simmons DA-200s monitor, JBL 515xt
        Ludwig 4-piece Club Date in silver sparkle
        Future Ekit (5 piece Jobeky kit in Bubinga fade with 2box module)

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        • #5
          If you just HAVE to have a TD-20 module, then great. It's obviously the best out there. However, if your budget is limited, why not start a bit lower on the food chain and actually get a complete kit? You can always upgrade the module later if you find that you really have to have all the bells and whistles.

          Or, as grog suggests, go used. Your dollar will go much, much further.

          Just seems silly to me to have a TD-20 module but not be able to afford pads to actually play the darned thing.

          Best of luck.
          >>>See my E-kit here<<<

          >>>See my A-kit here<<<

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          • #6
            Pieceing together is a good strategy if need be. I did it myself and am pleased with the results. As to your existing stand, it really all depends on the pads you are buying, with the snare you buy probably being the on of you most critical. If you buy a Hart Pro snare, Roland PD-125, or the Pintech, an existing snare stand will normally be fine. Several folks have mounted theircymbals to regular stands and like the look and feel of the, as well, though I have heard some folks say that sometimes there are crosstalk issues due to vibration from the floor, but that is nothing that can't be overcome with some setting work.
            Hawk snare, toms, and bass; Hart ECII crashes & ride; VH-10 Hihat; Iron Cobra double-bass.
            "I never play the same thing twice...sometimes because I simply can't remember it." - John Paul Jones

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            • #7
              Wow

              Wow, thanks for all the thoughts guys!

              JGermanich, that is EXACTLY what I am going for.. who's kit is that? Any idea how he mounted the module there?

              I know it almost seems silly to me to piece it together too, but I definitely want the td-20 module (just for expansion later on and for longevity before upgrade) and I really love the 3 zone cymbals.. but the more I read on here, the more it seems like I could probably get away with cutting budget on some of the other stuff.

              I definitely want the vh-12, mesh heads and 3 zone cymbals.. any other ideas gents?

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              • #8
                HH: Look at the VH-11 and the Hart Epedal Pro II as alternatives.

                Mesh Heads: Roland's heads are indestructable. Hart's heads (and pads) feel, to some, the closest to the "real thing". This is a touchy-feely thing. Roland's heads are bouncier, Hart's are not. Consider a mesh kick and mesh snare to start out. At the risk of being a total Hart schill, look at their kicks (either Pro or Accupad). Very affordable.

                Pads: Roland pads (like the PD-10x series) use the L-bracket. Hart's use the 7/8" tom arm. The latter might fit better into your existing stand setup.

                3-zone cymbals: Take a long hard look at Yamaha's new stuff. 3-zoners, quiet and sooooper affordable.

                All the above is new. Once you get an idea of what you want, keep an eye on ebay and be patient. You can typically get components for a decent price.

                www.myspace.com/rubberuniverse
                TD-12, DTX502, SD1000, EZDrummer, Diamond Drum 12" snare, S1000 toms/cymbals/kick, PCY10/100/135/155, CY-5/14, Hart Ride, Hart Acupad 8" kick, Epedal Pro II, Concept 1 pads/cymbals, SD1000 & Roland V Sessions racks, PD-7, Kit Toy 10" splash, DMPad ride, SamplePad, PerformancePad Pro

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by billdapart View Post
                  Wow, thanks for all the thoughts guys!

                  JGermanich, that is EXACTLY what I am going for.. who's kit is that? Any idea how he mounted the module there?

                  I know it almost seems silly to me to piece it together too, but I definitely want the td-20 module (just for expansion later on and for longevity before upgrade) and I really love the 3 zone cymbals.. but the more I read on here, the more it seems like I could probably get away with cutting budget on some of the other stuff.

                  I definitely want the vh-12, mesh heads and 3 zone cymbals.. any other ideas gents?
                  billdapart welcome and i hope u soon complete your kit.I can only give u one advice cause i can ''see'' it is around you ready to ''attack''you.
                  Beware of GAS !
                  The more u read here the more u explore and the more u explore the more u want
                  Ex E-kits:
                  ''Lernean Hydra'' ( a bounche of roland pads with a td-6 module)
                  ''Lucy'' (Diamond electronic drums with a td-12 module)
                  current E-kit
                  ''Cherry Gretschy Lady'' (Gretsch Catalina Ash 6 piece A to E kit-Roland td20 module-A to E cymbals)

                  A-kit
                  " Mrs.Catalina'' (Gretsch Catalina maple 6 piece kit-Paiste signature+Masterwork custom made cymbals)

                  check out a few videos http://www.youtube.com/user/hampisdrums

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                  • #10
                    I started at the low end of the module spectrum (TD-3) and did some upgrading and then jumped up to a TD-12. I went with Pintech drums/cymbals.I have a two piece hi-hat and a 3 way ride. I went with a Gibraltar rack although you could probably use drum/cymbal stands instead. If your hardware will work for you, you'll have more $ for cymbals/drums/module

                    There are LOTS of possibilities, good luck getting something together.
                    Michael

                    TD-12/Gibraltar rack/Pintech Concertcast drums 12" snare, 1 12" tom, 2 10" toms, 8" mesh kick, Visulite cymbals, 14" dual zone crash, 13" hi-hat, 18" 3 zone ride and 2 Dingbats, Roland PM-10, iPod, Zildjian anti-vibe sticks, Roc-N-Soc throne with backrest, Yamaha snare stand, Tama Iron Cobra pedal and HH75W hi-hat stand, Sennheiser HDR 110 wireless headphones. V-expressions 80's and 90's Giggin' Kits and Both Top 50 drummers (hopefully functional soon)

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                    • #11
                      yep

                      Yep,

                      I've been looking into the Hart stuff because I've heard great things about their improved feel and super quiet operation, (both a big plus to me) but they are all, as you said, 7/8 tom arms.. All of my stands are L-bracket.. otherwise I think I would definitely go with the Hart set.

                      The Yamaha cymbals are definitely a top contender for me.

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                      • #12
                        One question....if you put e-cymbals on standard cymbal stands, don't the cables get somewhat messy? Wouldn't they have to go on the floor? One of the advantages of rack mounting is the ability to get the cables all nicely organized and hidden away. Anyone who has done it this way, how do you manage your cables? I'm actually kind of intrigued with the idea of putting the cymbals on stands.
                        Hawk snare, toms, and bass; Hart ECII crashes & ride; VH-10 Hihat; Iron Cobra double-bass.
                        "I never play the same thing twice...sometimes because I simply can't remember it." - John Paul Jones

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                        • #13
                          I find that when you use e-drums live you cant worry about wires because you end up getting confused and it takes hours to make it look neat. There also is never enough wires of the right length! Best way I have found is ignore the wires, they will look after them selves. You wont notice them when you are playing.

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                          • #14
                            I have a related question. Currently I have a China made cheapo e-kit (DD-505). I'm thinking of getting a TD-12 module with a PD105 snare and a couple of cymbals, and re-using my current rack and tom pads. (Interestingly I don't mind low rebound on the toms.)

                            My question is: can I really use my cheap single-trigger pads with TD-12?
                            My compact kit.

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                            • #15
                              You should be able to, as long as they are piezo triggers, which I believe they are.

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