Best set up for live sound using TD-6V

[BECKY CAMPBELL]

I am looking to get the best sound out of my kit and I want to make sure I have a decent set up. This is how I am doing it now:

1. Run a 1/4 inch cable from the right channel of the brain to the mixer channel.

2. Running a 1/4 inch cable from the left channel of the brain to the back of my TDA-700.

With another band I used to be with I would run a cable from the brain to the TDA-700 and a cable out to the mixer. In my new band, this does not work on his Mackie powered mixer. Can anyone tell me why? What does others use for a good live set up? Compressor, etc??

Thanks

[Odisey]

I am looking to get the best sound out of my kit and I want to make sure I have a decent set up. This is how I am doing it now:

1. Run a 1/4 inch cable from the right channel of the brain to the mixer channel.

2. Running a 1/4 inch cable from the left channel of the brain to the back of my TDA-700.

With another band I used to be with I would run a cable from the brain to the TDA-700 and a cable out to the mixer. In my new band, this does not work on his Mackie powered mixer. Can anyone tell me why? What does others use for a good live set up? Compressor, etc??

Thanks

That is a good question. There are tons of potential set ups given the equipment you have. I don't use Mackie - a few here do though - maybe they can lend some knowledge.

To my recorder/mixer (Roland VS 2400 CD) I can run 4 cables out of each brain / I have two. That's eight cables out. I can do this to isolate different instruments for pan / center / effects / etc. Some features of the brain are redundant in the mixer, However, easy to mix in nonetheless. I like the thought of running hi pitch toms right and a bit center, and low pitch toms left and a bit center. This gives your kit a stereo sound in the audience.

Odisey.

[ramondo]

Only the left channel out on a TD6 is mono, so if you take output from left and right at the same time, you're back to stereo - i.e. your left becomes left of stereo, not mono - I think there's a difference??

You'd need an adaptor to split your one mono (left) to 2 mono to feed one to your own pa/monitor and the other to the mixer, if you wanted the same mix as before (assuming you used the left out to the amp/speaker then took its "line out" to the mixer).

Alternatively, you've also got the smaller phones (stereo) output that you could possibly feed (with a 1/8 to 1/4adaptor) to the mixer if it can take stereo in - or a different adaptor to split the phones 1/8 out into 2 separate 1/4 channels into the mixer.

[Hercules]

Hi Becky,

...everything that Ramondo says is good advice - if you can convince the Mackie owner to give you 2 inputs and use your L/R outs from your TD-6V to connect to the mixer.

Use your headphones out for your TDA-700 and you will have control of the level going into that unit (I assume it's for foldback) leaving the Mackie to control the P.A. mix.

A compressor can help level out the dynamics in your playing but you can get plenty of good sounds straight from the TD-6V - a bit of ambience (reverb) is often all you need.

[Drumzilla]

TD-6 Sound

I would think that a good bet would be to run your left and right channels to two DI boxes and have the returns from those boxes go to your amp.

Does your Mackie mixer have a stereo channel free for this? I always like it better playing in stereo.

[BECKY CAMPBELL]

Setup

Thanks fellas for all of the advice. I will experiment with it this weekend. Have a great drumming day!!!!

[BECKY CAMPBELL]

Still questions??

Ok guys...I think I have got the jest of a good set up. The band uses mono when we play. What kind of an adapter would I need with Ramonda's answer? Where would I plug it in and which channel out - left or right. I admit I am a dummy when it comes to the tech stuff. I need a step by step way to get the most out of the kit and sounding killer thru the PA. Anyone up to a challenge?

[BarT]

For mono, you need to use just the L (MONO) output of the TD-6V. (If you connect anything to the R output, them the L output will not be mono.)

There's no logical reason why you should not be able to connect that to the L (MONO) input of Channel 1 on your TDA-700, and then Line Out from the TDA-700 to the PA mixer.

Bruce

[Roger Wilco]

surely the PA must be stereo.
isn't it possible to get two channels for your kit?

it has been metioned above, the TD-6 comes with two outs. one left, one right. if there is no jack in the right, then the left is not left but mono.

again, what everybody else said: there is no reason why you shouldn't be able to use the TDA-700

[BarT]

surely the PA must be stereo.
isn't it possible to get two channels for your kit?

Many PA systems don't get used in stereo, so there's not much point in using two inputs which may have to be panned left and right.

Bruce

[Hercules]

Many PA systems don't get used in stereo, so there's not much point in using two inputs which may have to be panned left and right.

Bruce

How sad - do they think that stereo is just a gimmick that won't catch on? I guess we'll eventually evolve into creatures with one ear.

[eric_B]

How sad - do they think that stereo is just a gimmick that won't catch on? I guess we'll eventually evolve into creatures with one ear.

Looking at today's technology we'll eventually have 7.1, 11.1 or 20.1 ears .

[BECKY CAMPBELL]

Tda-700

Ok so I have been running a cable from the left out to a channel on the mixer. I am running the right channel into my TDA-700. Should the left go into the mixer and thr right go into the TDA-700?? Or visa versa??

[BarT]

Ok so I have been running a cable from the left out to a channel on the mixer. I am running the right channel into my TDA-700. Should the left go into the mixer and thr right go into the TDA-700?? Or visa versa??

If you use both left and right outputs, those two channels will be different. And some drums/cymbals will be quieter in one, while other drums/cymbals will be quieter in the other. Unless you center the panning of all instruments in all kits which you will use.

There's no reason you should not be able to use the same connections as you did with the previous band.

Bruce

[Mixxit]

Bart's suggestion is a good one.

MOST PAs run mono. I've found that unless it's a very good PA, and the room is suited for live music, then you lose the stereo field anyway.