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  • Upgrading to pd-125 snare

    hi all

    i have the pdx-8 snare which came with the td-6kw kit and i am thinking to replace this with the pd-125 snare.What kind of improvement will i get with this ,is it worth it,what could i do more with this.The main reason i want to upgrade is the 12' inch but what else will i get ?

    i am also using some VEX for the td-6,do i need any new settings with the new snare ?

    thanks
    Ex E-kits:
    ''Lernean Hydra'' ( a bounche of roland pads with a td-6 module)
    ''Lucy'' (Diamond electronic drums with a td-12 module)
    current E-kit
    ''Cherry Gretschy Lady'' (Gretsch Catalina Ash 6 piece A to E kit-Roland td20 module-A to E cymbals)

    A-kit
    " Mrs.Catalina'' (Gretsch Catalina maple 6 piece kit-Paiste signature+Masterwork custom made cymbals)

    check out a few videos http://www.youtube.com/user/hampisdrums

  • #2
    What you will get is a better playing experience and better triggering. I find the TD-125 is the best snare trigger I have ever used.

    On the TD-6 you will just have to set the trigger type to PD-125. Easy.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Michael Render View Post
      What you will get is a better playing experience and better triggering. I find the TD-125 is the best snare trigger I have ever used.

      On the TD-6 you will just have to set the trigger type to PD-125. Easy.
      Michael the better playing experience would be really nice but i was wondering is there will be an overall difference in the sound.I don't think cause the sound comes from the module but i was wondering.

      Let's say i closed my eyes,would i hear any difference ?

      Oh and something else.Do i need to change the rack (is it heavier ?).I have the td-6 rack (mds-6 something like that)

      thanks

      btw i saw your monster kit on your site and i was really impressed .It looks like you have spent alot of money building it.And yes i clicked there....
      Ex E-kits:
      ''Lernean Hydra'' ( a bounche of roland pads with a td-6 module)
      ''Lucy'' (Diamond electronic drums with a td-12 module)
      current E-kit
      ''Cherry Gretschy Lady'' (Gretsch Catalina Ash 6 piece A to E kit-Roland td20 module-A to E cymbals)

      A-kit
      " Mrs.Catalina'' (Gretsch Catalina maple 6 piece kit-Paiste signature+Masterwork custom made cymbals)

      check out a few videos http://www.youtube.com/user/hampisdrums

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      • #4
        Sound will be the same, playing feel will be better, only way to improve sound is to get some Vexpression packs or upgrade to a TD9 or 12. After all whatever the drum size you are still just tapping on a piezo that cost maybe less than a dollar.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by hampis View Post
          .And yes i clicked there....
          Oh, you're one of those types!

          Originally posted by daveybabes View Post
          Sound will be the same, playing feel will be better, only way to improve sound is to get some Vexpression packs or upgrade to a TD9 or 12. After all whatever the drum size you are still just tapping on a piezo that cost maybe less than a dollar.
          DB, great way of putting it. The PD-125 does have a much better rim trigger than any other pad, but it won't sound any different.

          The TD-6 rack should be able to handle the PD-125 fine. It is heavier, but not that heavy. And they all use the same L-rods.
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          • #6
            apologies for intruding on this thread, but may I ask:

            Michael, is there a difference in feel and accuracy of trigger etc between the PD 105 and the PD 125. They are practically the same price here, and I was GASing my way towards a 105 - but could go for the 125 if there is a real difference....?
            TD9+6v with Diamond Electronic pads, and cowbell.
            ATH-50m headphones, VEX packs
            not to mention keyboards, guitars, basses, and cats

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            • #7
              Sorry to interrupt, but I can tell you in my opinion that the PD125 is a nice upgrade from the PD105. You have more space to play, looks more like an actual snare, and most importantly it plays nicer. I havn't been drumming long enough to get into specifics about HOW it plays better, but for me, the difference was night and day.

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              • #8
                Different sounds

                Well not to go against the grain but.... I have noticed that I do get different sounds depending on the pad I use. The td20 seems to change the sample it uses depending on the pad type. For example: if I use a pd8 instead of a mesh for snare I get a fuller ringing sound. Side by side they sound totally different. For the toms on the rims if I use a pd8 I get a nice rimshot sound and for the mesh it gives me rim clicks. Although its depends on the kit preset your using, on some kits it will give you the same sound no matter what. This is just what I noticed while I was fiddling around and having some fun

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                • #9
                  Sicko, it sounds like you are experiencing Positional Sensing. For a kit like the TD-20, PS will make a big difference in the sound generated.

                  saku, the difference between the PD-105 and PD-125 is purely size. That means you not only have more area to play, but you can adjust the mesh a little more. I tend to tighten my heads a lot, so it doesn't make a big difference. But for playing rim shots and cross sticks, I wouldn't use anything smaller that a 12".
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                  • #10
                    I gotta add that when I upgraded to the PD-125 I also used a snare stand for it. This allowed me to turn up the sensitivity setting for the snare because no more cross-talk to worry about. This I believe has made the snare play nicer and much more responsive.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Greenbutmean View Post
                      I gotta add that when I upgraded to the PD-125 I also used a snare stand for it. This allowed me to turn up the sensitivity setting for the snare because no more cross-talk to worry about. This I believe has made the snare play nicer and much more responsive.
                      ok i just bought the pd-125 u guys convinced me !.
                      now my question is what do i do with the previous pdx-8 .Should i use it as a second floor tom.I don;t think i have many options on the td-6v module since i have already used a second crash.I haven't even checked yet if there is any available input !!.
                      I left the kit at the studio and i can't remember.What u guys recommend me ?


                      thanks again

                      btw.if i keep on listening to your advices i will soon upgrade to the td-20
                      Ex E-kits:
                      ''Lernean Hydra'' ( a bounche of roland pads with a td-6 module)
                      ''Lucy'' (Diamond electronic drums with a td-12 module)
                      current E-kit
                      ''Cherry Gretschy Lady'' (Gretsch Catalina Ash 6 piece A to E kit-Roland td20 module-A to E cymbals)

                      A-kit
                      " Mrs.Catalina'' (Gretsch Catalina maple 6 piece kit-Paiste signature+Masterwork custom made cymbals)

                      check out a few videos http://www.youtube.com/user/hampisdrums

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                      • #12
                        i just played with the pd-125 and..WOW !!!

                        i played more dymanics more fast a new experience....
                        i recommend anyone this is the first pad u should update unless u have it !

                        i made the pdx-8 a 4th tom and i feel i got a new kit
                        one more question.Is there a way i can use a 3rd crash on a td-6v module.I already have 2 and the ride

                        thanks
                        Ex E-kits:
                        ''Lernean Hydra'' ( a bounche of roland pads with a td-6 module)
                        ''Lucy'' (Diamond electronic drums with a td-12 module)
                        current E-kit
                        ''Cherry Gretschy Lady'' (Gretsch Catalina Ash 6 piece A to E kit-Roland td20 module-A to E cymbals)

                        A-kit
                        " Mrs.Catalina'' (Gretsch Catalina maple 6 piece kit-Paiste signature+Masterwork custom made cymbals)

                        check out a few videos http://www.youtube.com/user/hampisdrums

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by hampis View Post
                          i just played with the pd-125 and..WOW !!!

                          i played more dymanics more fast a new experience....
                          i recommend anyone this is the first pad u should update unless u have it !

                          i made the pdx-8 a 4th tom and i feel i got a new kit
                          one more question.Is there a way i can use a 3rd crash on a td-6v module.I already have 2 and the ride

                          thanks
                          If all your normal inputs are being used, you can use a splitter cable to tom 1 or tom 2, i.e. attaching two pads to the one input. You lose the ability to play tom rims though - you would have to use tom 3 or 4 rims....

                          EDIT: I think the cable is a PCS-31
                          Last edited by saku; 10-04-08, 01:09 PM.
                          TD9+6v with Diamond Electronic pads, and cowbell.
                          ATH-50m headphones, VEX packs
                          not to mention keyboards, guitars, basses, and cats

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by saku View Post
                            If all your normal inputs are being used, you can use a splitter cable to tom 1 or tom 2, i.e. attaching two pads to the one input. You lose the ability to play tom rims though - you would have to use tom 3 or 4 rims....

                            EDIT: I think the cable is a PCS-31
                            saku this is what i thought

                            4 toms on the two tom double inputs and 3rd crash on tom 1 input.What i don;t know is if i can use the 2 double inputs the same time or is it just the one or another.So i need 2 splitter cables
                            Ex E-kits:
                            ''Lernean Hydra'' ( a bounche of roland pads with a td-6 module)
                            ''Lucy'' (Diamond electronic drums with a td-12 module)
                            current E-kit
                            ''Cherry Gretschy Lady'' (Gretsch Catalina Ash 6 piece A to E kit-Roland td20 module-A to E cymbals)

                            A-kit
                            " Mrs.Catalina'' (Gretsch Catalina maple 6 piece kit-Paiste signature+Masterwork custom made cymbals)

                            check out a few videos http://www.youtube.com/user/hampisdrums

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by hampis View Post
                              saku this is what i thought

                              4 toms on the two tom double inputs and 3rd crash on tom 1 input.What i don;t know is if i can use the 2 double inputs the same time or is it just the one or another.So i need 2 splitter cables
                              Wait a second...you have toms 1-3. of these, toms 1&2 can be split, though it might make more sense to put a ccymbal holder between tom 1 and 2, and run THAT as the extra input into tom 1...ie the splitter cable connects to tom 1 and to crash 3. and the second splitter into tom 2, connecting to tom 2 and either tom 4 or cowbell. But then you cant use the double zone function of tom 1 and tom 2, ie no rim sound. which is why to me, its cheaper just to define rim 1 as a crash and rim 2 as a cowbell...

                              IF you use two splitter cables you end up with 11 inputs on the TD 6

                              INPUT:

                              1: Kick
                              2: snare
                              3: hi hat
                              4: = tom1
                              5:= tom 2
                              6; tom 3
                              7: (split from tom 1), can be used as crash 3, or anything else
                              8: (split from tom 2), can be used as tom 4, or anything else
                              9: Crash
                              10: Ride
                              11: Crash 2

                              depending on the lengths of the cable...you might find it makes more sense to make input 11 into tom 4, and input 8 into crash 2.

                              I hope this makes sense and is not confusing you

                              cheers
                              ps, on your recommendation, I am getting a pd 125!
                              TD9+6v with Diamond Electronic pads, and cowbell.
                              ATH-50m headphones, VEX packs
                              not to mention keyboards, guitars, basses, and cats

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