I have been playing drums off and on for over 15 years. I had a nice acoustic set a couple of years ago but sold it due to it being to loud and taking up to much room. I am married with two small children so I had to make some sacrifices. I am getting the bug again to get a set though and am considering an electronic drum set. I am really at a loss as to what is good and what is mediocre. I used to play a 4 piece drum set with a couple of crashes, ride, hi hat. I play mainly rock/alternative music if that also helps. I have never tried an electronic set so I am worried about hitting them to hard or if I might damage them. I was looking at a few of the Roland set's that people have recommended but also noticed yamaha is mentioned at times. My budget is about $800-$1200 with everything included. I am worried how the rubber pads will sound/perform compared to the mesh ones. Thanks in advance and sorry for such a long-winded post
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What set to buy? Coming from Acoustic Drums....Need help.
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I'll let others answer who know about yamahas and american prices, but just to reassure you, i am a big strong bloke (think: weight lifter), and I've snapped the odd drumstick in half, but have never had a problem with any of the pads (first alesis (bad) then roland td-6, now roland td-9).
Just dont step on the computer/module, or pour drinks down it.
mesh is quieter than rubber, but the triggered sounds are the same...esp for low/middle end kits that dont have positional sensing.
welcome to the club!TD9+6v with Diamond Electronic pads, and cowbell.
ATH-50m headphones, VEX packs
not to mention keyboards, guitars, basses, and cats
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Originally posted by saku View PostI'll let others answer who know about yamahas and american prices, but just to reassure you, i am a big strong bloke (think: weight lifter), and I've snapped the odd drumstick in half, but have never had a problem with any of the pads (first alesis (bad) then roland td-6, now roland td-9).
Just dont step on the computer/module, or pour drinks down it.
mesh is quieter than rubber, but the triggered sounds are the same...esp for low/middle end kits that dont have positional sensing.
welcome to the club!
Thanks for the reply! That makes me feel better as I know I would be playing hard on them from time to time. I was looking at theTD-3 kit but also have an offer to get a like new TD-6 kit for about the price of the TD-3 (maybe a little more). I believe either one of those kits would fit my needs. I guess eventually I will have to purchase a ride cymbal as I see both kits only come with 2 crash cymbals.
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Originally posted by YOTR View PostThanks for the reply! That makes me feel better as I know I would be playing hard on them from time to time. I was looking at theTD-3 kit but also have an offer to get a like new TD-6 kit for about the price of the TD-3 (maybe a little more). I believe either one of those kits would fit my needs. I guess eventually I will have to purchase a ride cymbal as I see both kits only come with 2 crash cymbals.TD9+6v with Diamond Electronic pads, and cowbell.
ATH-50m headphones, VEX packs
not to mention keyboards, guitars, basses, and cats
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In a nutshell - Roland, Hart Dynamics and Yamaha all make excellent entry-level e-drum kits. Stay away from the cheaper brands you might find at big box retailers. They are more in the "toy" category and won't tolerate much abuse. The big three I just mentioned will stand up to a ton of punishment.
If you are a veteran of acoustic drums, you'll likely want to do what you can to eventually get all mesh pads. They're just kinder to your wrists. However, if the budget dictates that you stick with mostly rubber pads, you'll be fine for a while until you're able to upgrade. However, most folks agree that you should at least try to get a mesh pad to act as your snare.
E-drums are very much a "you get what you pay for" kind of item. Buy as much as your budget will allow, particularly when it comes to the module. You can always sell it off later to finance the purchase of bigger and better gear.
Best of luck, and let us know what you decide to get. Oh, and don't forget to use the search function of this site. You'll find a ton more background information on any and all kits that will help you with your decision.
P.S. One more thing - keep a close eye on eBay and Craigslist for good deals on used gear. If you're patient and do your homework, you'd be surprised at what you can find. Your dollar will go a lot further with second-hand sources than it will at Guitar Center. You also might consider converting a cheap acoustic kit into an e-kit. See the DIY section for more information on that. You can save a chunk of change doing that.
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Originally posted by YOTR View PostI have been playing drums off and on for over 15 years. I had a nice acoustic set a couple of years ago but sold it due to it being to loud and taking up to much room. I am married with two small children so I had to make some sacrifices. I am getting the bug again to get a set though and am considering an electronic drum set. I am really at a loss as to what is good and what is mediocre. I used to play a 4 piece drum set with a couple of crashes, ride, hi hat. I play mainly rock/alternative music if that also helps. I have never tried an electronic set so I am worried about hitting them to hard or if I might damage them. I was looking at a few of the Roland set's that people have recommended but also noticed yamaha is mentioned at times. My budget is about $800-$1200 with everything included. I am worried how the rubber pads will sound/perform compared to the mesh ones. Thanks in advance and sorry for such a long-winded post
You can buy td 8 module's on ebay for about $500. Get a cheap kit an throw some mesh heads and triggers. Even if you get some Roland pd-7 pads for starters for cymbals ride and hats you can easily be in the price range you are looking to spend. Check out DIY and do searches on the site.
This site has all the info you need to build a kit (starter to monster kit),
Jman, Michael Render and superpuss have awesome set-ups. Just to name a few.
Good luck and keep us informedRoland TD-8 Mod, DIY burgandy Mapex drums 12" snare, 8" 10" and 12" rack toms, 14" rack floor tom, 22" Bass drum , 3 cy-15r cymbals, one for the ride 2 for the crashes and cy-14c for hi hat.
Songs i've recorded using my old TD-7
My drum kit
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Originally posted by csnow View PostWelcome aboard. I would check all of the craigslist within your driving range for used sets. I have found some stellar deals to say the least.
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Okay I need some advice. The person on craig's list responded and has a mint like new Roland TD-6SW with bass drum pedal and throne, all original boxes (and hopefully original receipt) that he just purchased a few months ago at guitar center. It looks like it was played a few times if that. He wanted $1000 for it but I got him down to $900. Is that a good deal? I have seen this kit still going for $1200 or more on ebay when it is available. I really like the kit and it seems like a good step up from the TD-3 plus the throne and pedal are already included. It also seems comparable to the Yamaha DTXPRESS IV special that I was looking at minus one cymbal. I honestly didn't want to pay $1500 if I could avoid it so this would be a good option. I really would only need to buy a mat and some headphones. I do want to get a pa/monitor for it later on but for now this would do. Good deal or should I keep looking?
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I believe prices have dropped on the TD-6 kits now that they have been discontinued with the launch of the TD-9. A very quick Web search turned up several available new from online vendors in the $1,200-$1,300 range. So, I certainly wouldn't pay $1,200 for a used one.
Assuming the kick pedal and throne aren't crap, I'd guess $900 is probably a decent deal. I would, however, insist on dropping by and kicking the tires before you buy it. You'll want to make sure it hasn't been abused.
Also, if the seller says he only bought it new "a few months ago," be sure it is indeed consistent with the most recent TD-6 model:
Roland Corporation is a leading manufacturer and distributor of electronic musical instruments, including keyboards and synthesizers, guitar products, electronic percussion, digital recording equipment, amplifiers, audio processors, and multimedia products.
If you look at it and the module's casing is blue instead of black or it has a rubber pad for the hi-hat instead of a CY-5, he's selling you a much older model that should be priced accordingly.
Best of luck.
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Originally posted by V(ader)DRUMMER View PostI believe prices have dropped on the TD-6 kits now that they have been discontinued with the launch of the TD-9. A very quick Web search turned up several available new from online vendors in the $1,200-$1,300 range. So, I certainly wouldn't pay $1,200 for a used one.
Assuming the kick pedal and throne aren't crap, I'd guess $900 is probably a decent deal. I would, however, insist on dropping by and kicking the tires before you buy it. You'll want to make sure it hasn't been abused.
Also, if the seller says he only bought it new "a few months ago," be sure it is indeed consistent with the most recent TD-6 model:
Roland Corporation is a leading manufacturer and distributor of electronic musical instruments, including keyboards and synthesizers, guitar products, electronic percussion, digital recording equipment, amplifiers, audio processors, and multimedia products.
If you look at it and the module's casing is blue instead of black or it has a rubber pad for the hi-hat instead of a CY-5, he's selling you a much older model that should be priced accordingly.
Best of luck.Last edited by YOTR; 06-29-08, 02:14 PM.
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The KW looks like the later model as the SW is discontinued at retailers.
Sorry look here: http://vdrums.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-28881.html
The explanation I got was that the "K" is Rolands international designation for their kits. I have a TD6SXT which came in the main box marked TD6KXT on the outside. The "S" designation is U.S. only. So, the TD6KW is what we see as the TD6SW and the TD6KX is what is sold here as the TD6SX the "X" designates all mesh pads. The "W" is rubber pads. Confusing to say the least ! ! !Last edited by pasta; 06-29-08, 03:48 PM.
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Sounds like a deal then. Go for it. Just ask him to have it set up so you can test it out. Dial through the kits and give them a quick test. Wiggle the cables around to check for shorts (even if there is a problem with one, they're cheap and easy to replace). Play each pad to check for triggering. If all looks and sounds good, take it home.
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I think that you all missed a very important point to tell him..
especially for an acoustic drummer.
u need positional sensing in order to enjoy a real life drums..
other wise, no matter where you hit the pad you will get the same sound.
the only module (today .. ) that allow you to do that are the
td12 (1000$) and the td 20 (4000$)
so this is the starting price...
1000$ just for the brain ,....
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Originally posted by overg View PostI think that you all missed a very important point to tell him..
especially for an acoustic drummer.
u need positional sensing in order to enjoy a real life drums..
other wise, no matter where you hit the pad you will get the same sound.
the only module (today .. ) that allow you to do that are the
td12 (1000$) and the td 20 (4000$)
so this is the starting price...
1000$ just for the brain ,....
I think everyone who replied here made it clear that, when it comes to e-drums, you really do tend to get what you pay for. I think YOTR was probably smart enough to know that he won't be getting everything the TD-20 has to offer at a TD-6 price.
Oh, and the TD-10 and even my lowly TD-8 (both discontinued but still widely available in the second-hand market for under your suggested starting price of $1,000) offer some degree of positional sensing, so "real life drums" can be had even on a modest budget.
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