Quick...convince me NOT TO BUY A VH-11!

[Fullback32]

Ok, I may have great deal on a VH-11 in the works. I am currently using a Hart ECII (have been for some time) and it's good, but it is the loudest of my pads AND I have had problems with mistriggering due to the piezo coming loose in the housing. I hate to spend the money, but a quieter and little more reliable (?) hi-hat may be in order. Someone, make me stop...or encourage me with your experiences.

[ige87]

I'd say go for it. Its fantastic with my 6V, not quite an A hat, but very good. If the deals that good and you can afford it, you'd be daft not to tbh. If you're having problems with your current setup too........

Remember you need a stand too, but I'm sure you know that. Make sure it has a decent spring. Also, many say its equally as good as the Vh-12, and can be modded very easily to perform the VH-12 functions with the top end modules if you decide to upgrade that further along the line.

[Greenbutmean]

One of the best, if not THE best improvement I've made to my TD-6 kit thus far. Go for it and don't look back. I doubt you'll be sorry.

[ige87]

We're not doing a lot to warn you off really are we? That should tell you something too......

[grog]

FB: I see that you're using an FD8 which means your HH is static. Unless you want to move up to the moveable HH and all the features (and will your module deal with that? I dunno only because I'm not familiar with the module and haven't bothered to read up on it or follow any threads here that talk about it) that comes with it, why not just get another static pad? It could be anything assuming your FD8 pedal still does what you want it to do with the module(s) you have.

You know the hardware so any pad recommendation from me would be something you already know about.

That being said, I'm glad I "moved up" to my Epedal Pro (my Hart HH isn't having the problems your's does) so I'm guessing you'd like some type of moveable HH arrangement.

And yunno, given the general high demand price-wise for used edrumming equipment on ebay these days, hell, buy the thing. If you don't like it, it'll be really easy to resell and probably won't cost you a thing in the long run.

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[vdrummer20]

My opinion .... I am actually really happy with my CY-5 (I think that is what I have, its the little cymbal pad with the hole offset from center from the TD-6V set). and FD-8. I found that the TD-12 module brings this little puppy to life - but perhaps I did not spend enough time tweaking my TD-6 settings.

I don't think I am in the market for a VH-xx, not unless i have the $$ burning a hole in my pocket ... Let me check. I have about a buck-twenty in my pocket. Not enough for even a Starbucks today

with the TD-12 or 20, and some mods you can get the extra "compression" sound with this pad ... Is that worth it to you? If not buy a CY-5 for $80.

If you have the money, I doubt you will be unhappy with the purchase.

[evil1rox]

Ok, I may have great deal on a VH-11 in the works. I am currently using a Hart ECII (have been for some time) and it's good, but it is the loudest of my pads AND I have had problems with mistriggering due to the piezo coming loose in the housing. I hate to spend the money, but a quieter and little more reliable (?) hi-hat may be in order. Someone, make me stop...or encourage me with your experiences.

I have the Hart Epedal (The moving stand one..) with the Hart hats...and am on the verge of doing exactly the same thing. It's fairly loud, and I'm not 100% happy with the "action" so to speak. (the hat is starting to double trigger too. Probably send to Hart for fix...but I think it's time for a new one.)

-where are you buying the vh11 from..? I'll check it out for you and send it along after I test it out

E

[Fullback32]

Thanks guys. Green, vdrummer, ige.....appreciate all the responses. And no, you didn't do much to dissuade me; I will probably go this route. I am going back and forth between replacing my hat or getting a TD-12...which one first....decisions, decisions. For some reason I went a relatively long time without buying any new gear, now all of a sudden I have this intense NEED to upgrade stuff. I hate/love GAS attacks.

Grog, it isn't so much that I'm after a movable hat, but rather get a quieter and maybe more reliable (?) hat. I went to Guitar Centers a couple of weeks ago and was smaking around a VH-11 and definitely heard a difference in the stick noise factor compared to my ECII. I again put a question mark that reliable bit as I need to do a little more research on it to see if the VH-11 craps out after time too. I've had TWO ECIIs have the piezo start mistriggering due to the piezo housing come loose and I'm tired of it. I've tried settings, different cables..all that...it's the housing. I know Hart will fix it, but damn. My first ECII they won't fix as I bought it used, but the second one I bought new. I still have no idea why they started putting the piezo housing right under the strike pad. I thought this was a bad design, but I'm no cymbal engineer, so what do I know. My first one had it on the back of the hat so you weren't striking directly on the piezo housing. It may have made no difference at all, but I thought maybe my first ECII crapped out just because it was used. They both played great at first, but then the mistriggering problem got worse and worse as time wore on. The VH-11 being movable is just a bonus. Plus, it being on a separate stand will free up some room on that rack tube so I can add more stuff to it. Right now I have two pads from my old Prodigy kit (I intend to replce these with 8" Hart Pros eventually) there acting as timbales/bongos, but I don't like the placement as the hat is in the way on that tube. With the hat being on a separate stand, I can place those two pads better.


E....can't give away my source yet!

[ige87]

Well, at the moment if you are fed up with your ECII I'd say replace that first. That way, you'll have a better hihat now, which will tide you over until you get the new module, and you'll feel even more benifit when you move up to the TD-12.

[Fig Newton]

Dont do it

FD7/FD8 and a CY5.
Mucho Good!!

[Swaledale]

Nah! Do it AND buy a TD-12 - the hats are just soooooooo much better than the TD-6 .... and then there's the depth of sound on the toms... wow! .... positional sensing on the snare.... you won't regret it!

[vdrummer20]

Nah! Do it AND buy a TD-12 - the hats are just soooooooo much better than the TD-6 .... and then there's the depth of sound on the toms... wow! .... positional sensing on the snare.... you won't regret it!

agreed with the td 12 comments....

[daveybabes]

Howdy

Half the world is starving and u wanna spend all that money on a blah blah yakety yak and what about that busker in New york who is amazing just playing plastic containers he would be happy with a meger TD3 blah blah yak yak and the history of the mighty Red Indians? they just have the buffalo skin and some manky wood yet with all their skill yak ... ... etc etc

Tell ya what? meet ya half way, split the difference, BUY it and we can share it? i can have it week days and u have it weekends? that way you please 2 people for one purchase price AND u get to be on my christmas card list

ching! bargain!

[Fullback32]

.........and the history of the mighty Red Indians? they just have the buffalo skin and some manky wood yet with all their skill yak ... ... etc etc

Oddly enough....I am a "Red Indian". Enrolled member of the Comanche Nation of Oklahoma. Playing drums with an e-module...Talk about moderning up!

[laystay]

agreed with the td 12 comments....

I second that, I just got a 12 a month ago and LOVE it!