help !! looking to buy a sampler, which one ??

[dw4me]

Hi, I recently bought a v-concert kit. The only thing that completely lacks in this kit is the crashes, I'm going to buy a sampler o record some real crashes with long decays, etc, as well as sound effects in songs.

I'm looking at either buying a used EMU, or a korg triton rack. Which do you guys think is the more bang for the buck ?? I really don't care about the memory, I'm going to use a zip drive to store information..I'm mainly wandering which one is more user friendly, better effects, better editing capabilites. As of now I'm leaning more towards the triton, just so I can take advantage of all the keyboart sounds, as well as the vocoder, etc. tell me what you guys think...Josh

[MPCman]

A small comparison between the EMU Ultra samplers and the Korg Triton;

I think the EMU's have more sampling and editing functions then the Korg, their filters are better sounding and I think with the EMU you get more filter types to select.
The Triton offers a better effects processor and very good built in sounds.

If it's only about sampling I'd go for an EMU, if you like to use built in sounds as well, the Korg would be a great option too.

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[MPCman]

btw; there's an optional upgrade for the Ultra's called RFX-32 which adds 16 extra high quality stereo effects to your sampler! You can also route other signals into the sampler and throw some effects on them

(not cheap though)

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[jrcel]

I bought a used Emu E4XT sampler for $950 and it smokes, you might want to wait for the new Akai Z series samlpers to ship. They come standard with a 20 gig HD amd sample up to 96khz sample rates. Plus they aren't too expensive. Once you start talking about sampers, you're talking much better sound quality than any module, period. Kurzweil sounds warm and very acoustic, Emu has cut like a razor blade, Akai is a good all around sound quality box, some guys love Roland samplers for the filters. For film, Kurzweil, for general purpose Akai, for Techno and Hard Core, Emu or Roland. But then there are no hard set rules. What's cool now is that you can buy CD roms that have kits already done for you, just load 'em up. Most come with samples for limited or expanded ram, and make sure the CD has pre-done kits.

[This message has been edited by jrcel (edited December 26, 2001).]

[dr. kildrum]

Originally posted by jrcel:
...What's cool now is that you can buy CD roms that have kits already done for you, just load 'em up. Most come with samples for limited or expanded ram, and make sure the CD has pre-done kits.

Look for professionally sampled kits with velocity switching .

[MPCman]

Originally posted by jrcel:
For film, Kurzweil, for general purpose Akai, for Techno and Hard Core, Emu or Roland. But then there are no hard set rules.

In the shop I work it's most of the time EMU for everybody.
We don't sell Kurzweil often because of their limited availability right now, and it seems that a lot of their machines break down easily.

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[jrcel]

My E4 has a 16meg Esynth rom board installed, my K2000 has 8meg expandable to 24, I don't think I'd buy a sampler without some rom on board. It's nice to have something there on power up. I've heard alot of people complain about the latency problem associated with aoftware samplers. There's so many other things going on inside a computer other than reproducing sound. It's nice to have a dedicated box that does one thing very well. BTW, you were right Feefer, the Event Station has support for only for PSR, or stereo switch pads, rubber. It's fine for me, but others won't like it. On the bright side, you can take a Roland module and just midi into it and get all kinds of great new features while still playing the pads you like.

[This message has been edited by jrcel (edited December 27, 2001).]

[Prototype]

[jrcel]

If it's what floats your boat.There is no wrong answer here. Alan White used an MS-1 for a long time, play what you like, and you will be happy.

[MPCman]

The small Roland samplers are nice toys, but for music production their use is very limited.

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[Prototype]

[MPCman]

Originally posted by Prototype:

I'm not sure if it works with a standard Ultra. I do know that it works with the optional RFX-32 board.

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[Stoovey]

Isn't getting a sampler mainly for cymbals considered overkill?! Why not just get real cymbals?!

[johnber]

I would suggest that you buy a software sampler if you are already using a PC or MAC sequencing program like Logic or Cubase.

Logic has the EXS 24 which is fully integrated in Logic Audio.
Its not expensive and its a great sampler.

Check it out on www.emagic.de

Good luck, John

[MPCman]

Originally posted by johnber:
I would suggest that you buy a software sampler if you are already using a PC or MAC sequencing program like Logic or Cubase.

That's a good idea if the sampler would be for recording purposes only, but if it's main purpose is for playing back cymbal sounds when drumming it wouldn't be the best option I think. It would be a little irritating to me if I had to boot my computer first before I could jam on my drumkit!



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