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I have read in other threads some guys using a BBE 482 model sonic maxamizer with positive results. Recently I have come across a used BBE 402 model sonic maxamizer. It is still a single rack space, stereo unit. (as I have seen half rack units) My question is, I know this is apparently an older model but does it compare in performance to the 482? They look almost idenical. Unfortunately the store does not have any of the 482's currently in stock for me to compare it with. Any thoughts?
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This is for 'szvook'.
Dude - you have totally blown my mind recently with your detailed, thought provoking, and all around excellant balanced posts and replys regarding signal processors and out-board effects. This is Internet Community at it's best!! I have learned more from reading, re-reading, and searching your posts in the last month about quality 'live' sound then I ever knew was possible. My hats off to you. Thanks.
I humbly request that you take the time and post a very detailed thread under 'Tips' for use of 'out-gear' by us 'un-informed'. Heck, before VDrums, I didn't even know what effects were, let alone compression, delay, reverb, etc. I just hit 'em hard, and hoped I kept time!! As a wise man once said, "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear." I for one am ready!
Well my band has just cut a demo CD song, is getting ready to do some serious studio time, and significant live performances are right around the corner. I love the TD-10exp sound when recording, but live (with my JBL EON 15PAK), although as good as my acoustics (un-mixed) ever were, has always been less than what I know the potential could be.
Tax refund is coming, and due to your posts, I am seriously looking at, at a minimum, a BBE 462 from EBay (or a 482/882 should $$ come available) to compliment my JBL MusicMix10, as well as getting 2 new Mackie SRM450s or JBL EON 15 G2's. A sub-woofer would be nice too!!
Confusion sets in though as to where I place the BBE. Between the TD-10 and the Mixer (hence limiting my TD-10 output options), or between the mixer and the speakers?!? (Life is really good when we have these type of problems!) New VCymbals be damned, I'm going for more quailty SOUND!!!
My wife, bless her heart, says get what ever I want (I have her convinced I deserve it! Ha!). But as a novice in the sound amplification arena, I'm using this site (and great people like you) to help me make an informed decision regarding what I may need for my set-up and gigs. Truth be told, I'm still a bit lost about 'out-gear effects', and spent an hour tonight learning (after almost 2 years) about the TD-10 effects capabilities. This module has a lot of potential when properly used!!
Anyhow, short story long, I have a feeling I'm not the only VDrummer out there who has been paying particular attention to your posts/replys, trying to catch up on the learning curve. Any help you can provide (in a seperate 'Tips' post) regarding recommended 'out-gear', brands, pros/cons, placements, hot stock tips in a bear market, etc., etc., would be greatly appreciated. And if your not inclined or able to spend the time/energy, that's cool; I have at least finally mastered the search and print function!!
Jam on!! Tom.Comment
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I echo TomLandin. szvook's posts and replies are great. What I particularly appreciate is his courtesy in replies. He does not talk down to those of us that are trying to learn. Keep in mind, many of us are new to the electronic's and technology, not new to drums. We are trying to learn and this bulletin board is a great asset for that. Thanks again szvook.Comment
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Do these processors do much in a home environment, especially when using headphones?
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by CKovatch:
[B]Do these processors do much in a home environment, especially when using headphones?
A difference will be noticed through headphones, but not as much as it would be noticed through a PA. The punch/boost to the sounds will sound like a crisp affect through headphones, but through a PA, the actual punch/boost will be more evident and FELT.
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szvook: I just ordered the BBE 882. I plan on using it for my bass drum and snare. Do you have any suggestions on how to set it up?
Also, I plan on running an efx processor soon. Is there any order of running these things that work best? I am assuming that I would run into my BBE first and then inti the efx unit then to the board.
Thanks for your help. Can't wait to hear the BBE in action.
KurtKurt
Pearl drums converted with hart adc, roland kd7's, pd 120 for snare, various roland rubber pads, hart e cymbals and pads, td8, td6, 2 mackie srm450s and mackie sub. mackie sr 24-4 mixer........and always growing.Comment
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I agree 100% with TomLandin about szvook's posts. Thank You szvook!!!!V-ClubComment
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Actually I want to thank everyone on here for their posts, I've learned so much here the past few months.V-ClubComment
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Small side note on the original topic: My in-dash CD receiver (JVC) has BBE processing built in. Turning it on is like night and day in terms of the CD and radio sound quality! When it's off, the sound is very flat and also not very loud. (Even though I have decent speakers and it's a 25 w/ch receiver.) Hit the blue button and the music just punches through!
I play my Customs through a G2 (might get a 2nd someday) for jams and small parties, and it works fine for me. I'm not too keen on getting a bunch of extra outboard stuff. (I'm also not a pro by any means!! $^) However, based on comments here and on my own car receiver, I think I might just pick up the BBE 482. And if I get a 2nd G2, I can put the TD8 L and R outputs through the BBE's 2 channels and into the 2 amps. For $200, why not?Comment
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OK, I've been motivated by szvook to get a BBE. Picked up a used BBE 462 off of EBay yesterday for $115 delivered. I will post later as to the 'improvement' through my JBL EON 15Pak, and my churches main PA system.
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Go for it!!! It will give your over all mix from the TD-8 a jolt! Once you try the BBE (or any sonic maximizer) you won't go back to the TD's just by them self's - EVER!Originally posted by drmoze:
Small side note on the original topic: My in-dash CD receiver (JVC) has BBE processing built in. Turning it on is like night and day in terms of the CD and radio sound quality! When it's off, the sound is very flat and also not very loud. (Even though I have decent speakers and it's a 25 w/ch receiver.) Hit the blue button and the music just punches through!
I play my Customs through a G2 (might get a 2nd someday) for jams and small parties, and it works fine for me. I'm not too keen on getting a bunch of extra outboard stuff. (I'm also not a pro by any means!! $^) However, based on comments here and on my own car receiver, I think I might just pick up the BBE 482. And if I get a 2nd G2, I can put the TD8 L and R outputs through the BBE's 2 channels and into the 2 amps. For $200, why not?
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