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  • Updated the TD-8! CY-6?

    Thanks to the advice on this forum and a computer-savy friend I now have a 1999 TD-8 which is updated to version 1.1.
    I've read through a lot of the many posts here concerning the Roland CY-6 cymbals. Quite often posters don't mention what module they're useing; which can make a substantial difference. However, the concencus seems to be that CY-6's work well as hi hats on the TD-8 except that they were (and possibly still are?) prone to being defective. ie: self choking, cutting out inexplicably etc. Conversely, the CY-12H makes a superior H-H on the TD-10X but no better than a CY-6 on the TD-8....(provided it doesn't break down.)
    Does this sound like an accurate assesment to those more knowledgable among you?

    Does anyone know if Roland has addressed the apparent problem they were having with the CY-6's?

    Also, it looks like Pintech will be introducing some new e-cymbals in the very near future which leaves another possible alternative. I've done a couple of searches for news releases from Pintech & have found nothing. Anyone know anything? Thanks.
    TD8, triggered Tempus carbon fibre acoustics. Triggered 13" x 7" Tempus c/f snares. 12" Ddrum snare. Various pads, CY-12, KD-8, way too many pedals. Meinl, Paiste, Sabian cymbals...

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    Originally posted by drums911:
    the CY-12H makes a superior H-H on the TD-10X but no better than a CY-6 on the TD-8....(provided it doesn't break down.)
    What is the basis for making this statement? I don't understand what it does on the TD-10ex that it doesn't do (or does poorly) on the TD-8.
    Kit Pic 1 Kit Pic 2 Kit Pic 3... And FOR SALE I have: 3 PD-9's, MDS-10 purple rack w/cables/pad and cym mounts. See classified posts for details or PM me.

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    • #3
      Well, as I said, I read through a lot of the huge number posts on this subject &managed not to go cross eyed in the process & that's what it sounded like the concencus was...if indeed there is ANY concencus. I'll try to trace back & find the specific posts which left that impression. Meanwhile; do you know if Roland has remedied the CY-6 problem?
      TD8, triggered Tempus carbon fibre acoustics. Triggered 13" x 7" Tempus c/f snares. 12" Ddrum snare. Various pads, CY-12, KD-8, way too many pedals. Meinl, Paiste, Sabian cymbals...

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      • #4
        Here's a couple from a thread "what hi hat do you use?"------------------------------

        "roland CY-12H. i love it!

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        HolShot
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        Registered: Aug 2001 digitsone
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        From: Cambridge, USA: TD-10Exp, Pintech Vision pads, Roland V-Cymbals
        Registered: Sep 2001 posted October 01, 2001 09:37 AM            
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        roland CY-12H. i love it!

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        From: Wichita, KS TD-8/TD-6/Alesis D-4/Yamaha TMX
        Registered: Jan 2001 posted October 01, 2001 09:20 PM            
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        Originally posted by mcconaghy:
        PD-9. Love it.

        Stu
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        Same here. I think the CY-12H is the weak link in the entire series of V-Cymbals. It doesn't play or trigger any better than a PD-9. It just looks cooler and costs more. Don't believe the hype, folks....."

        The first guy has a TD-10X & loves the CY-12H. The second has a TD-8 & also likes the CY. The last one says the CY is no better than his PD-9.
        Those are three examples but as I mentioned there seems to be nothing definitive & the whole point is I'm trying find out which is gonna be a good choice for my updated TD-8. I'm inclined to the CY-6 but am leary of the bad experiences many people have reported. I've had wires come loose from the piezos on my PD7's but I just soldered them back & it never happened again.
        I've been playing acoustic drums for 37 years but am relativley new to e-drums; three years. I'm looking for advice, that's all.

        [This message has been edited by drums911 (edited June 09, 2002).]
        TD8, triggered Tempus carbon fibre acoustics. Triggered 13" x 7" Tempus c/f snares. 12" Ddrum snare. Various pads, CY-12, KD-8, way too many pedals. Meinl, Paiste, Sabian cymbals...

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        • #5
          I don't own the CY-12H so I'm also going from what I have read. My take is it provides more realism, has some give when you strike it (friendly on the old wrists) and is more reliable. I know of no differences when played on a TD-8 or TD-10ex (which have V-cymbal control settings and better hi-hat sounds such as bow and edge). I don't believe you even need to have the updates in order to use them. The CY-6 has had several posts about it's inferior design regardless of how it is used (hat, crash, ride). There seems to be a reason for it's low price. It wasn't intended to be used as a hat (which gets more use than a crash). I have seen little in the way of negative reviews on the CY-12H and what I recall was more about taste instead of performance.

          Eventually, I'll get the CY-12H. I wouldn't waste my money on the CY-6 (based on reviews and risk of it biting the dust). Please note: some people have had good luck with the CY-6 and are happy with their purchase. It's strictly a matter of risk IMO.

          I didn't mean to put you to a lot of trouble detailing posts. I was just looking for something concrete on differences between the two to support your statement. Good luck with your decision.
          Kit Pic 1 Kit Pic 2 Kit Pic 3... And FOR SALE I have: 3 PD-9's, MDS-10 purple rack w/cables/pad and cym mounts. See classified posts for details or PM me.

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          • #6
            Thank you for your replies. This is info I can use. I'm trying to cue things up so as to buy new e-cymbals at about the same time as I receive my "in progress" Space Muffins. I've decided to steer clear of the CY-6 & go for the 12-H & maybe a PD9 unless Pintech's new stuff looks right. I emailed Pintech & received information as follows:
            .....

            "Thank you for you interest in Pintech.  We should have the new cymbals
            available in the next couple of weeks.  These cymbals will look like cymbals
            and feel like cymbals.  They will be designed to have two zones and a choke
            feature.  Please check back with me in about 2 weeks.

            Thanks

            Tony"......

            So I know they're coming (as someone here already indicated) but don't know as to what material & how acoustically loud/quiet etc. The fact that they "look" like cymbals kinda makes me think they're some plastic/composite material & are going to be pretty noisey...we'll see.
            Thanks again.
            TD8, triggered Tempus carbon fibre acoustics. Triggered 13" x 7" Tempus c/f snares. 12" Ddrum snare. Various pads, CY-12, KD-8, way too many pedals. Meinl, Paiste, Sabian cymbals...

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            • #7
              Probably more similar to the Roland cymbals than HartDynamics. Supposed to have rubber completely covering the top.
              I'm a drummer. I don't play the timpani! Hire a percussionist!!!

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              • #8
                I hear it is not the size but the motion, the sustain and the endurance!!!
                I'm a drummer. I don't play the timpani! Hire a percussionist!!!

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                • #9
                  ummmmm, what ARE we talking about here?
                  The original Gig Pig.

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                  • #10
                    Got my new CY's....

                    I bought a CY12H & CY14C privately from a drummer in eastern US. They're only a few months old & have been used very little; for all intents & purposes they're "new".
                    I'm very happy with them in congunction with my updated TD8. They feel nice & respond well...none of the problems some people (old TD8) referred to in months past. I can only guess that the update makes all the difference. One thing: I was hoping they'd provide a greater dynamic range than my PD7's but regardless of that they're still a definite improvement. I have the "pad type" set to CY2 and all other settings as suggested in the CY owner's booklet. I expect the booklet settings are meant for the TD10 but they seem to work fine for the TD8 as well.
                    BTW, the TD8 is way more fun now that it's been updated. Better & more interesting songs, memorized click sound etc. Maybe it's just because all the settings were returned to "factory" (correcting all my monkeying around!) but everything sounds cleaner now....
                    TD8, triggered Tempus carbon fibre acoustics. Triggered 13" x 7" Tempus c/f snares. 12" Ddrum snare. Various pads, CY-12, KD-8, way too many pedals. Meinl, Paiste, Sabian cymbals...

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