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ATV cymbal compatibility with the Roland TD-50 module.

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  • ATV cymbal compatibility with the Roland TD-50 module.

    Is the ATV aD-C18 Cymbal compatible with the Roland TD-50 module? I have an ATV aD-C18 ride cymbal I'm trying to use as a crash cymbal but regardless of where and how I strike the cymbal all I get is the edge sound. It seems that the Roland module is not reading the signals coming from the ATV cymbal as intended.

    Before acquiring the ATV cymbal I had contacted Roland about getting another digital ride to use as a left hand crash/ride but they said the TD-50 can only operate one ride cymbal at a time whether digital or not. Nonetheless, I still wanted a larger diameter cymbal than a CY-14 or a CY-15R so I bought the ATV as a crash cymbal and also as a backup if down the line I decided to add another module to my rig.

    There are two outputs on the ATV; cup and edge. I assumed that as with the Roland CY-15R the edge output would cover the edge and the bow. A couple of people thought I should use a dummy plug on the cup output. I'm still not quite sure what a dummy plug is or how to make one or whether it will work or not.
    Last edited by percussivewoman; 03-14-19, 06:47 PM.

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    Which inputs are you putting the ATV ride into on the TD-50 module? You can't use the analogue ride or snare jack inputs when the digital pads are in use.

    If you have it plugged into a crash or aux jack, first I'd check that the "rim" button/light on the module lights up when you hit the edge and goes off when you hit the bow. If this happens but the sounds are still the same, then it means that the bow and edge sounds are configured as the same sound rather than as the appropriate bow/edge sounds for the cymbal. If this is the case, you can turn off the head/rim link and check and cha get them individually.

    If this is not it, the next step would be trying the dummy plug. I'm not sure if this would be necessary with the ATV cymbal wiring but I know the Alesis 3 zone Strike cymbal pads are wired this way so maybe. The easiest way to try this is find a spare jack cable and plug that in to the bell output on the cymbal but don't plug it in to anything on the module (whilst the bow/edge output is still attached to the module input as usual). Then try the bow and edge and see if it has corrected the issue. If this works then the best thing to use in the bell output would be something like a 3.5mm to 6.35mm jack adapter as it's just basically the jack plug with no cable attached. That would be the most discrete and low cost option, I'd say.

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    • #3
      I have 3 each ATV aD-C16 cymbals hooked up to my TD-50 with no issues. Make sure you have the right trigger selected in the settings of the TD-50 for each cymbal input. Plug the cable into the edge output of the cymbal, no dummy plug is needed. Use a CY-15R or CY-14C profile. You may also have to adjust the sensitivity up from its default value.
      ATV aDrums, TD-50, aD5, Superior Drummer 3.0, Roland SPD-SX, Tama & DW Hardware.

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      • #4
        I have a question go along with Robin's then.....

        As we know that The USB Snare/Ride when plugged in cancel out their respective "analogue" inputs. Does plugging in a third USB trigger (to use presumably as a large crash), cancel anything additional out on the analogue side???

        Just a thought.....

        BTW, A "dummy" simply means a 1/4 jack that goes nowhere.
        Like a simple headphone adapter for example......
        Last edited by Vigosh; 03-16-19, 04:17 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Chance27 View Post
          I have 3 each ATV aD-C16 cymbals hooked up to my TD-50 with no issues. Make sure you have the right trigger selected in the settings of the TD-50 for each cymbal input. Plug the cable into the edge output of the cymbal, no dummy plug is needed. Use a CY-15R or CY-14C profile. You may also have to adjust the sensitivity up from its default value.
          +1 here...

          The aD-C18 is wired exactly the same as all ATV cymbals. Itís just larger... ALL ATV cymbals are 3-zone capable, but play 2-zone (bow and edge) w/ choke switch when you plug into the edge only. No need for a dummy plug.
          Alesis Strike module and pro pads | ATV cymbals | Tama HW and pedals

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