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  • More realistic hi hat pedal feel?

    Hi. I am a brand new drummer (as of around a week ago). Already I am wondering about upgrades to the hi hat pedal that comes with the Roland TD1DMk Kit. I donít know the model offhand but is a very simple electronic pedal with no adjustments possible (that I could see). Honestly I have no frame of reference, having maybe 2 hours max on an acoustic kit, but the pedal doesnt respond the way I feel it should...using heel up technique I find myself having to actively press the ďtoeĒ of the pedal for a closed sound and on the other hand lift my leg way up off the prdal for an open sound, instead of the more subtle movements necessary to operate the kick drum pedal correctly. Maybe itís just lack of experience but I would think thereíd be alternatives with a better feel. Ive asked customer support and the vh10/11 will work with the td1 module; of course thatís a pretty expensive setup and Iíve read those style hats have their own issues. And then there are the FD6,7,8,9 pedals. Cant find too much online about how they FEEL, or what kind of adjuatments each has. There maybe other solutions out there that work with the TD1. Anyone have any thoughts?

  • #2
    the cheapest (best) solution would be buying a used fd-7.. these have a solid feel, at least you can keep 'time' on them..
    some other pedals are too spongy.. but do ask if open and close control (chick) is still 100% because half would have
    worn ribbons by now .. but with some luck you still find a good one.. (ebay, reverb etc)

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    • #3
      Thanks. So youíd say the 7 over the 8 or 9?

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      • #4
        definitely no to 8 or 6 .. you'd have to try a fd-9 ..i don't know that one .. but that would be 35-40 bucks (fd-7) vs 180 bucks ..

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        • #5
          Gotcha. I'll do more research. Not necessarily gonna jump on this right away but at some point.

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          • #6
            I'd definitely support what Ericdrumz wrote. I've got one 7 in the cellar, as a backup. Definitely a good feel on that one. However, since I also like the visual effect of a moving hat, my current choice is Goedrum controller with a real hi hat stand. There you can't really complain about the feel.
            However, the question remains whether it works well with TD1. Certainly no problems with TD11, so my bet would be on yes.
            TD-11 + TD-4 with a few pads and cymbals.
            https://www.vdrums.com/forum/perform...44011-my-kit-s
            https://sites.google.com/view/open-source-drum-module

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            • #7
              Just looked at the video...looks very cool. So you just mount the CY5 (I think thats the hi hat pad) on any real hi hat stand and the controller moves it up and down like one of those two piece hi hat pads?

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              • #8
                You can use any cymbal pad. I'm using Yamaha because the centre of gravity is in the middle and I like the look.
                See my signature.
                TD-11 + TD-4 with a few pads and cymbals.
                https://www.vdrums.com/forum/perform...44011-my-kit-s
                https://sites.google.com/view/open-source-drum-module

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                • #9
                  Thanks. I figure use CY5 since I already have it. I asked the goedrum seller on ebay if TD1 was compatible. Not sure how supportive to those kinds of questions (i.e using some other companyís stuff) Roland themselves are.

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                  • #10
                    Goedrum does not know if their units work with the TD1 but say they havent had reports that they dont work, and I could return if it doesnt work. So if were to go that route, what hi hat stand would you recommend? There are $120 hi hat stands and $60 hi hat stands, and I know some dont fit well with certain e-cymbals or the Goedrum unit because of the stand design. Also, what about instead of a stand, mounting the hat to an arm attached to the Roland frame? I dont know how pedals work with an arm-mounted hat as have virtually no experience with acoustic drums. With a stand fhe pedal and stand are attached or come together, right (as opposed to having to buy them separately)?
                    Last edited by TheBass; 03-05-19, 09:00 AM.

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                    • #11
                      Can't really recommend anything. That's a personal preference. I've tried a few and they all worked fine. The Goedrum will happily mount to pretty much any stand. You'll have to figure out how to fit the CY-5 so that it does not rotate. Not being a weight-balanced pad, that might not be the easiest thing to do. But try it out, maybe it will work just fine. I haven't tried, to be honest.
                      TD-11 + TD-4 with a few pads and cymbals.
                      https://www.vdrums.com/forum/perform...44011-my-kit-s
                      https://sites.google.com/view/open-source-drum-module

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                      • #12
                        With the kit mounts they have a sort of wedge shaped thing that fits into a corresponding wedge in the CY5 that keeps it from spinning. Not sure if any hat stands have that or if they make an adapter for that purpose.

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