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  • Need Help Selecting Kick Pedal for TD-30

    I've acquired a new TD-30 and I'm slowly putting a kit together for playing live. I can't afford the KD-140, so I'm looking at the KD-120 and the KD-9. I don't play double pedals and quiet practice is not an issue. Will the TD-30 brain respond as accurately with the KD-9 as it will with the KD-120? Does one pedal have a longer lifespan? Are parts for maintenance and repair easily found for both? I conducted a forum search but failed to find the insight I need, although I'm sure it's all been discussed before! Thank you. Kim

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    All those will function fine and should work equally well. I don't think there are any durability issues on either. The foam padding in the mesh kick drums might need to be replaced after many years, but that part is available from Roland direct. Another new offering worth considering though would be the KT-10. http://www.kraftmusic.com/kt-10-kick-trigger-pedal.html
    I could tell you where to stick that piezo! ;)
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    • #3
      I've had both, the 120 is awesome and would be easier to repair if needed. The 9 has a nasty habit of getting a dent in the memory foam behind the cloth head. The 120 is just like a mesh pad and the foam looks easier to replace if needed. I never had a problem with either.
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      • #4
        Are you saying you want just the kick pad, or do you also need a kick pedal as well?

        Your playing live? congratulations!

        Consider a Diamond or Jobeky 20" x 10" half shell kick drum for looks. Else I would recommend a KT-10 and a mockup drum to put in front 10881674_903900516317566_8923821878334118060_n.jpg?oh=5e3755ade134059d7cf7d32d0c2ba247&oe=5571F230&__gda__=1433765210_64565bf41e231b3efcfca25f6be76a12.jpeg
        ◾ Diamond Drums 4pc in Di-Noc carbon ◾ MegaDRUM
        ◾ Roland UA-1010 / cymbals / KT-10 (x2) ◾ Tama / Gibraltar hardware ◾ JBL LSR3 Series 2.1 Monitoring ◾ Pearl THMP-1
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        • #5
          As for pedals, my advice is stick with major brands...better warranties, durability and parts availability. Most all run about the same as life span and if you're not playing double kick stuff you probably will NOT outlive your pedal!!! Just go to a big music store and TRY some pedals out to see what feels right to you!!!!

          K
          My bands: Alter Ego, Arcanum
          E Kit = Roland TDW-20s kit // Roland SPD-S// Pearl Demon Drives//
          A Kit = Tama Swingstar 5 pc (1981) w/roto toms (orig owner!) //Zildjians
          A Kit = Natal 6 pc with Paiste 2000 & Zildjian/MidiKNights/DrumSplitters

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          • #6
            My mistake guys in posting a confusing question. I'm already set with the actual foot pedal. I'm very fond of the single chain DW 5000. I need an E kit to play a venue that requires every band member to plug into the house PA. Along with the Roland TD30, I've purchase a few items used, to include one Cy15r, two cy14, VH12 hats, and I've got an order pending with Jobeky for 5 inch shallow drums in diameters of 14 snare, 12 tom, 13 tom. the floor tom will be 13 inches deep and 14 diameter. I didn't want a bass drum to transport so I need to select a kick pad. I like the affordability and size of the KD9 and came to know it after seeing the prices for used KD120s. Now I've just learned about the KT10. I really appreciate the responses.

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            • #7
              What part of the country are you in? I wanna come see a live gig!

              K
              My bands: Alter Ego, Arcanum
              E Kit = Roland TDW-20s kit // Roland SPD-S// Pearl Demon Drives//
              A Kit = Tama Swingstar 5 pc (1981) w/roto toms (orig owner!) //Zildjians
              A Kit = Natal 6 pc with Paiste 2000 & Zildjian/MidiKNights/DrumSplitters

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              • #8
                Kenster, I live in the New Orleans metro area but the all E gig will be at Jimmy Buffet's Margarittaville casino in Shreveport. BTW, the casino booking manager is also a drummer. Depending on my learning curve, I might use this new E kit for other gigs too.

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                • #9
                  That Roland KT-10 looks very interesting and I have been looking into getting one myself for a second kick. I just cant seem to find good complete reviews of it yet but I just my get one anyway.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by yzf125 View Post
                    That Roland KT-10 looks very interesting and I have been looking into getting one myself for a second kick. I just cant seem to find good complete reviews of it yet but I just my get one anyway.
                    Digital drummer: http://issuu.com/digitaldrummer/docs/dd_november_2014/0 - Page 21

                    It easier for me to talk about why you shouldn't get one, because the negatives are fewer than the positives; but in short; the feel is going to be entirely subjective to your feet only.

                    There's no beater arm, direct drive (It's not in the same league as the Demon Drive) and it's not like playing a mesh head. The trigger pad is very solid with no chance of double triggering if you slam your foot down. I can't say if that's better or worse, either you adapt and get used to it or not... that is that (as they say)

                    Reviews can only document so much from another persons experience, and other useful quantifiable things; like build quality and triggering quality - both of which are excellent.
                    Apart from that, adjustability is the main negative. I would like to make the springs weaker for instance, I can't, so I'll just have to build leg muscle. Also I would like to retro fit cobra coils under the pedals, because I miss them. But I don't want to drill holes in them.
                    ◾ Diamond Drums 4pc in Di-Noc carbon ◾ MegaDRUM
                    ◾ Roland UA-1010 / cymbals / KT-10 (x2) ◾ Tama / Gibraltar hardware ◾ JBL LSR3 Series 2.1 Monitoring ◾ Pearl THMP-1
                    PA Comparison Sheet

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                    • #11
                      All good points, KabonF...and I appreciate the link. I did find the KT10 pedal in use by a pro drummer on Broadway but it appears he was using it as a switching device. I'm drawn to it primarily due to its compact size. Doesn't seem to be one in stock within 500 miles of me to test.

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                      • #12
                        kimmtate,

                        I have a KD-140, KD-9, and KD-7. I've also tried all of Roland's other kick pads, except the KT-10. My favourite of this lot is the KD-9. The KD-9 is light and portable, allows me to use a proper bass drum pedal, triggers flawlessly, and feels the best of the bunch. The only negative I've found with the KD-9 is it's a bit acoustically louder than the KD-140. The KD-140 is the quietest of the kick pads I own.

                        Regarding the KT-10, my concern is I doubt it has the feel and response of a proper bass drum pedal, especially when you consider how much variability there is in the way people set up their pedals. For example, my acoustic bass drum pedals are DW-5000. I set the spring tension so low that the beater has virtually no back-force on it. I've taken the pedals apart and adjusted the angle of the beaters for maximum throw. With my spring tension and beater angle setup, the beater rests almost on my shin. During play, as the beater returns from the head, the forces on the beater are equal amounts rebound and spring, but perhaps more rebound given how low the spring tension is. At the point where the beater is upright, there is no spring tension on the beater at all. And, as the beater falls back, toward my shin, there is only marginal tension. In totality, there is a complex set of mechanics going on here and these are very difficult (if not impossible) to replicate in a design like the KT-10.

                        I own Roland's other compact design (the KD-7), which uses a proper pedal along with a special, angled beater that faces the beater downward, toward a small pad near the floor. Due to where the beater rests (about 45 degrees forward, past the fully upward vertical), the KD-7 doesn't feel remotely like the way I set up my pedals. Though I tried, I couldn't get the KD-7 to give the feel and response I want, so I abandoned it.

                        Back to the KD-9. I give this pad a big thumbs up. For my needs, this is the best feeling and playing bass drum pad Roland makes. I use the KD-9 along with a TD-30 module, and with some of the components from my TD-30KV kit. The default TD-30KV didn't suit my needs so I broke the kit up and substituted other components.

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                        • #13
                          Tang, I really appreciate your opinion and recommendation but ALSO I appreciate you taking the time to explain why you take the position your shared. I'm glad to hear the positive experiences you've had with the FD9!

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                          • #14
                            As far as the KT-10 a person could write pages about the philosophy of kick drum/pedals without actually trying it. But like any Bass drum pedal the most obvious suggestion would be to try one yourself. That's too bad you do not have anyone with stock locally you could try. I use a Pearl Demon direct drive double pedal and simply love that. When I have tested the KT-10 at NAMM I was very impressed. I thought it had the feel of a high quality direct drive pedal myself. I'm not sure how many personal reviews you will see on the net, but I have read Allan's review in Digitaldrummer magazine and found it very accurate, at least according to my own personal observations. With my own Ekit it is all about real drums look and feel and I have my kick, so I have no need for a KT-10 personally. But, yeah I do like the KT-10, a great triggering, great feeling all in one Ekick solution. J
                            Last edited by JmanWord; 03-14-15, 06:54 PM.
                            I could tell you where to stick that piezo! ;)
                            Stealthdrums.com Mega Kit: Pearl Mimic Pro ,2Box modules,drums and cymbals too many to count. VST quality sounds directly from the Mimic and custom sounds loaded into and played directly from the 2Box modules. Visit me anytime at: http://stealthdrums.com/

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                            • #15
                              kimmtate,

                              After reading your reply, it seemed I should add details about my KD-9 configuration. While I like the KD-9 as it comes out of the box and have had no problems with mine, non-the-less, I was worried the surface could become worn, I wanted to make it acoustically quieter, and I wanted to make the feel a bit softer and more like an acoustic bass drum. With these goals in mind, I modified my KD-9. Or rather, it's more accurate to say I added a custom head over top of the KD-9's default surface. You can read about my mod halfway down this thread:

                              (This *is not* my thread. Someone else was having trouble with their KD-9 so I added my solution.)

                              My KD-9 is Falling Apart
                              http://www.vdrums.com/forum/general/...-falling-apart

                              About the KD-140 and KD-120. There is nothing wrong with either in terms of playing performance. However, the KD-140 is ridiculously heavy... so much so that I didn't want to move it around. I considered the KD-120 as a replacement, but it is still quite heavy. That's why I tried the KD-9. The KD-9 is much lighter than the KD-140 and KD-120, and it performs just as well. I still have the KD-140, but I never use it because the KD-9 is so much more convenient. You can see pictures of my kit here:

                              (This *is* my thread, but it's not about bass drum pads. Instead, it's about obtaining multiple, three-zone cymbals with the TD-30. You'll find pictures of my kit immediately after the first post.

                              Roland BT-1 Review and Three-Zone Ride Solution
                              http://www.vdrums.com/forum/general/...-ride-solution

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