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  • PDP HH820 or HH920 hi hat stand

    Iím considering adding a VH-11 to my expanded TD-15K kit. Iím looking at the PDP HH820 or HH920 two-leg hi-hat stand. The $10 cost difference is not an issue, however, the heavier construction of the 920 may be. This will always remain in my house Ė no gigging, etc. Iím leaning toward the 820 since Iím not a heavy hitter. Is there a major performance difference between these two? Your thoughts pleaseÖ..

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    Both work well. The dif. as you pointed out is the HH920 is slightly heavier duty plus it has a different type of spring tension adjuster: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/drums...g-hi-hat-stand But either will work fine.
    I could tell you where to stick that piezo! ;)
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    • #3
      Never seen these... but if in doubt, always stretch your budget, go for the higher model number.

      Buy cheap, buy twice, etc.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Kabonfaiba View Post
        Never seen these... but if in doubt, always stretch your budget, go for the higher model number. Buy cheap, buy twice, etc.
        With some things, I agree this mantra is true. However, a lot of modern drum hardware is ridiculously overbuilt and thus unnecessarily heavy. The only reason I ever go a model up (which almost always means using something heavier than I'd like) is if it has an adjustment I use and that feature is critical to me. Otherwise, I look for the most basic hardware that does the job. Case in point, hi-hat stands. The most basic model often does the job better than more expensive and more complicated models. Consequently, I'm currently using Yamaha's lowest model hi-hat stands (the 600 series). These stands are simple, lightweight, compact and flat when folded up, and one hundred percent reliable. They don't have many adjustments (for example... no spring tension adjustment) and they don't need any more. The feel is perfect right out of the box. Unfortunately, Yamaha doesn't make a two leg version of this stand so it won't fit the OP's needs. Two leg stands tend to be higher end models. Thus, unless two-leg functionality is absolutely needed, I recommend a less expensive and (ironically) lighter weight three leg stand.

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        • #5
          Thank you all very much. Tang, you most always hit the nail on the head (or cymbal as it may be) and I certainly respect your input. If I elect to move to the VH-11 (which I'm still not totally convinced - I'd appreciate some input on this as well), then the 820 it will be.

          Again, my thanks....

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          • #6
            EssKayKay,

            I'm not sure what I wrote that "hit the nail" correctly, but thank you for your kind words.

            Regarding the VH-11 versus a stationary pad with foot controller, I don't think one is inherently better than the other. Each provides different tradeoffs. For example, the pad and foot controller are much more consistent than Roland's moving hats, like the VH-11, VH-12, and VH-13. Conversely, while not always consistent in terms of response, the feel of the moving hats (mostly because of using an actual hi-hat stand) is closer to an acoustic pair of hats. That said, the moving hats still feel nothing like a real pair of hats.

            I suggest you try both setups side-by-side (pad with foot controller and the VH-11) and make a decision on what works best for you. Case in point, Check out that wonderful drummer who demos for Drum-Tec. He *chooses* to use a stationary pad and foot controller over Roland's other options. That's his preference. There is no right or wrong. Just pick what works best for you. Here's another example... I use a modified KD-9 over the KD-140. Though it is ostensibly the better of the two, my KD-140 sits in its box, unused. I prefer the feel and compactness of the KD-9. Simple as that.

            Good luck making your choices. :-)

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            • #7
              Again, my thanks Tang.

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              • #8
                EssKayKey,

                --- Again, my thanks, Tang.

                You're most welcome. As e-drums evolve, I'm continuously learning so it's great to have a place like this to learn from and share with others.

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                • #9
                  I hate to keep beating a dead horse here, but I’m still a bit confused (I know – nothing new). My problem is I am very tight on space. I was not aware of rotating legs or swivel foot pedals.

                  As I originally noted, I thought a 2-leg stand was the way to go because of the smaller footprint. However, maybe a rotating 3-leg or one with a swivel foot pedal would work better. Is there such a thing as a rotating 2-leg? If so, can the legs rotate independently? I’d be interested in suggestions on either (however, I’d like to keep it under $100).

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                  EDIT: I'm now looking at a Yamaha HS-740A -- any remarks would be appreciated.
                  Last edited by EssKayKay; 01-11-15, 02:59 PM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by EssKayKay View Post
                    I hate to keep beating a dead horse here, but I’m still a bit confused (I know – nothing new). My problem is I am very tight on space. I was not aware of rotating legs or swivel foot pedals.

                    As I originally noted, I thought a 2-leg stand was the way to go because of the smaller footprint. However, maybe a rotating 3-leg or one with a swivel foot pedal would work better. Is there such a thing as a rotating 2-leg? If so, can the legs rotate independently? I’d be interested in suggestions on either (however, I’d like to keep it under $100).

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                    EDIT: I'm now looking at a Yamaha HS-740A -- any remarks would be appreciated.
                    Both of the PDP stands in your first post have rotating bases. Rotating base means you can swivel the base right or left, making it easier to place another pedal or stand right next to your HH stand. It is simply a feature to make it easier to fit your hardware in where you want it. Here is a pic of one of the HH820 stands that I built into a HH stand/controller ..... notice the legs rotated to right. PDP HH Stand Legs rotated Right by dajmando, on Flickr
                    I could tell you where to stick that piezo! ;)
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                    • #11
                      EssKayKay,

                      Adding to JmanWord's feedback... generally, unless you're using a double pedal or placing an extra standalone pedal (with cowbell or some other percussion) by your hi-hat, you don't need a double leg stand. And, you don't need swiveling legs, either. When placing a double pedal, both the double leg and swiveling legs really come in handy. Conversely, with a single pedal setup, I find a triple leg stand works great and I never swivel the legs. In fact, back when I still used a stand that allowed the legs to swivel, I was forever putting the legs back in the center position!

                      So... ask yourself if you'll be using a double pedal and that will give you your answer. Double pedal = "yes", you'll want a two leg stand that allows the legs to swivel. Double pedal = no, it really doesn't matter; just go with a plain-Jane triple leg stand.

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                      • #12
                        Thank you Jman, that's exactly what I was wondering. How about the stability with the 820 on carpeting? I've heard this is a problem and I will be using this on carpeting. Maybe then a 3-leg with swivel legs would be better.

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                        and thank you Tang (weird, I did not see your post until after I replied to JM). Now the question is PDP HH800 or Yamaha HS740A
                        Last edited by EssKayKay; 01-12-15, 04:27 PM.

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