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    Maybe i've been doing this wrong all along so I thought i'd get some advice from the pros. When replacing heads I know they can have too much tension shortening the life of the head. What's the best way to know how tight is tight enough? I usually tighten a head until I can still depress the head slightly with a little finger pressure. Is this sufficient or is there a better way?

    Tony

  • #2
    I tighten them to about the same tension I prefer to have on an acoustic head.

    It's all about your personal preference and style.

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    • #3
      Head tension IMHO is extremely important, and like most things it depends on your priorities. Here are some of my observations:

      Too tight:
      -provides more bounce than an acoustic (better or worse depending on what you want),
      -reduces "hot spots" because the head can't depress as deeply in the center.
      -it can increase the life of triggers' foam. I found this to be true with my Pintech foams which are softer.

      Too loose:
      -feels more like an acoustic
      -increases hot spots
      -can reduce the life of triggers' foam

      My choice is to tighten them up because I prefer to minimize hot spots (yes there are strategies to reduce them in the module, but in my opinion it all starts with a tighter head). I also have no problem with the extra bounce. It's not "cheating" on your acoustics; you're just playing a different instrument. Why not use its benefits?
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      • #4
        Sadly, there was a recent, and good, thread on this subject that was lost during the move. The end opinion was most tune their larger pads to about 1.5-2 turns from finger tight. Smaller pads, 2.0-2.5. Roland manual states at least 1.5 turns after finger tightening. I always go more to save my cones.
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        • #5
          I Like mine tighter also. As you suggest Alan, I tightened mine about 2 1/4 turns (snare) and it seems pretty responsive. I'm using a Pintech to replace a Hart Dynamics head. Its the Hart head that actually made me question my tension as it didn't last long enough for the water to get hot. I popped through the head right in the center. It was pretty frayed and i shouldn't have been playing on it. So far I'm impressed with the Pintech head.

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          • #6
            I found that too loose gives a trampoline effect (this is on Roland heads), it is this weird slow bounce that makes playing harder, doing doubles on that was driving me crazy. Tightening up a smidge increased playability for me by giving a faster lesser bounce, but I haven't played around with over-tightening to see what that feels like.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by kurth83 View Post
              I found that too loose gives a trampoline effect.
              Agree with that. In fact, that was my initial concern moving to Roland. Ratcheting down the heads definitely helped that.

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              • #8
                I like my mesh heads just like my women tight!
                Mine have been finger tight + maybe 6 or more turns. No problems for 2 years or so.
                "It makes sense if you dont think about it"

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                • #9
                  Wow that's really cranking them, but better. Tight than loose!

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                  • #10
                    It's hard to overtighten a head. Here's what happened when I "overtightened" a Hart head:
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                    • #11
                      Wow , those hart heads are tough, I guess! On my a to e 12 13 14 16 and 20 kick, I crank them about 2 and one half complete turns. T he poster who said he cranks 6 turns after finger tightness. Is that half turns or complete revolutions ?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by hemiboy View Post
                        Wow , those hart heads are tough, I guess! On my a to e 12 13 14 16 and 20 kick, I crank them about 2 and one half complete turns. T he poster who said he cranks 6 turns after finger tightness. Is that half turns or complete revolutions ?

                        You Know, after thinking about it I think those would be half turns so that makes it about 3. About the same as a few others posted. Sorry if I misled anyone.
                        "It makes sense if you dont think about it"

                        Mimic Pro, SPD-SX, 2-QSC K-10s, K-sub, Yamaha mixer, and a bunch of other expensive cool things!

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                        • #13
                          I'd be interested in what others think about not just tightening mesh, but actually "tuning" it. I apply the same principles to mesh as I do to acoustics, simply listen to the tone at about 1" from each lug and get a close match. It doesn't have to be just right, but I find it's beneficial for optimal positional sensing to get lug tension even across the drum, at least close. Anyone else?
                          ATV aDrums & aD5, Pearl Mimic Pro & DIY, eDRUMin 10, Agean R-series Silent Cymbals, Roland Handsonic HPD-20.

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                          • #14
                            I don't have positional sensing with 2 box , but I just bought a drum dial and after my second tightening( it was suggested that the heads would loosen after the first tightening) I "tuned" them appropriately. I tightened them to a 65 setting which was aboutt 2 full turns of the drum key

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                            • #15
                              I don't have positional sensing with 2 box , but I just bought a drum dial and after my second tightening( it was suggested that the heads would loosen after the first tightening) I "tuned" them appropriately. I tightened them to a 65 setting which was about 2 full turns of the drum key. Tjey feel better than my old heads ever did, and now I know that my old heads were never tuned evenly! Live and learn, I guess

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